Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
okay, as hokey as this may sound...go to www.menshealth.com they have all kinds of ab workouts that really do work..plus easy meal plans that help.

a flush-system helps but only once or twice a year...unless drugs/alcohol are consistant then I'd do it like 5-6 times a year.

you sound like your well on your way though

The one thing I've found that is best, is cardio...but not intense cardio...fat burn..crank the incline to like 4 or 5, and set the speed to like 4mph..stay on that bastard for like 20-30 min. 4-5 days a week...plus ab work outs = rock hard stomach.

If you wanna "bulk" and "flab" then take CLA(natural fat burner/no caffine), L-carnintine(breaks down amino acids and puts them in the proper places) and ultra water(removes water weight)...you can get this at GNC its called the "ripped kit" its specifically meant for removing fat and keeping muscle.

Any protein you take in, make sure its 25 minutes after you work out...Pushups/chin ups/pull ups are hands down the best stuff for you...the rest will take care of itself..

btw, peanut butter sammachis ftw!!!
so that 'ripped kit' includes the CLA, L-carnintine, and ultra water? cool. does it help build muscle, or its not meant to build? i do push ups, i love pull ups and chin ups, but i have no place to do it, but the version the total gym uses.

i can tell around my waste that its gotten smaller..i had to use the last hole on my belt that i just bought yesterday to wear these certain pants to hold them up lol.

question...why take in protein 25 minutes AFTER you work out? i thought taking it prior to working out and then working out would help you build more? does the protein 'fill in' what you just 'ripped apart' from working out, creating more muscle?