Do you believe in God? Simple question

[BABY J]

heh, the Bible is full of wisdom and insight. If you've read it, you'd discover it yourself. Especially if you read it with the intent of learning instead of trying to find the so called "flaws" that you've lead yourself to believe in. I read a biology book with the intent on learning and discovering something new I didn't know before... though I know it'd be twisting and arm and a leg to have you even pick up a Bible. And you're right, there are plenty of other places that you can experience wisdom and insight... but none like an all-knowing God has to offer.

Some1 with a true desire for searching for truth or anything close to it will not approach the bible w/ the INTENT of learning anything. They will approach it with an arbitrary eye. You seem to be fairly intelligent on most days and I'm sure you'd agree.

If I were a Christian I'd LOVE for people to challenge it b/c if it rang true it'd only prove my view to be sound when they reached the same conclusion that I had reached. Asking questions means I am learning something - the people that followed Mr. Jones didn't ask enuff questions - neither did the people that followed Mr. Koresh and they paid with their lives.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence --- Christians have never been able to produce evidence or anything that resembles evidence. Jesus was no more important than any other common hero of humanity (i.e Martin Luther King, FDR, Ghandi, etc). There are ZERO 1st hand accounts of him rising from that grave --- and if there are, well... people still see Elvis too. LOL

[ahabion]

Some1 with a true desire for searching for truth or anything close to it will not approach the bible w/ the INTENT of learning anything. They will approach it with an arbitrary eye. You seem to be fairly intelligent on most days and I'm sure you'd agree.

If I were a Christian I'd LOVE for people to challenge it b/c if it rang true it'd only prove my view to be sound when they reached the same conclusion that I had reached. Asking questions means I am learning something - the people that followed Mr. Jones didn't ask enuff questions - neither did the people that followed Mr. Koresh and they paid with their lives.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence --- Christians have never been able to produce evidence or anything that resembles evidence. Jesus was no more important than any other common hero of humanity (i.e Martin Luther King, FDR, Ghandi, etc). There are ZERO 1st hand accounts of him rising from that grave --- and if there are, well... people still see Elvis too. LOL

It is already hard enough for many who call themselves Christians to even believe what they believe to be correct and absolute. Even if they thought it, do they live it, is the big question. Where Christians fail (as a people) and where the rest of society see them is that they're seen as being one of the same crowd and doing the same things everyone else does but "preach" a different thing. So they challenge the status quo never realizing that they only challenge themselves in front of the status quo. So to prove that they're right (to address the bold) only allows them to validate and vindicate themselves. Ask the tough questions and wrestle down truth.

And you are right that great claims require great evidence. Archeology provides sound evidence for events within the Bible and the same can be said of evolution as well... discover truth.