that would be one of the worst things to happen everOriginally Posted by geoff
lol their jesus wouldn't be the same as our jesus, unless the were human looking too,
i see this resulting in a huge war because our jesus look different from their jesus, especially if they were just as intorerable as us
think about it would you accept their jesus if it was green and had 4 legs? also what are the chances of jesus having the same name? this sounds like a huge misunderstanding that will happen.
who is to say that other life, if there is any, would be green with 4 legs? we as humans are supremely engineered creatures to adapt to life. we have a very effecient design to live. so in all reality, if the law of nature of natural selection applies, then other life in the universe would look very similar to us. they might be more advanced with higher intellectual capabilities but other than that i highly doubt they would have thin grey bodies and huge heads and huge black eyes.
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What if they are from a huge planet, with an inheirently large gravitational pull. They would be much more bulky to deal with stress or better equiped for such a place. To think that we are the perfect being is retarded. We can barely fend off animals not even our size. We have the ability of greater thought than most animals. You must have watched a lot of old school Star Trek or something to believe that alien life would look remotely human
i never said aliens would be green and had 4 legs, i was never stating facts, only merely stating a scenario
i asked simply would you accept their version of jesus if it was green and had 4 legs?
Holy assumptions Batman.
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listen God has no flesh to bind Him, He appeared to us as Jesus. He may appear to aliens as something else. BUT, if other life came here and was holding a Holy book of this God's commandments and what not and it was Jesus being preached then YES i would accept it.
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and to starrfire, you really are funny you know that? sure gravity would change the appearance slightly and so would the closeness of the sun. so sure they could be bigger or smaller or different colors but their organ systems, nervous system, ect would be very similar. what you fail to realize is just how perfect the human body is. science is amazed at how intricate each system we have is. i was just watching the Science channel the other day and they were talking about the earth and universe and just how perfect everything was to be able to sustain life. they were talking about how earth could not sustain life if we had no moon. come on now guys, its not that hard. just actually think for a second and quit coming up with excuses or arguements cuz your a rebelious being.
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The living organisms could be nitrogen based, instead of carbon based, which I could imagine making such an organism unlikely to be the same. But I digress, such a discussion is as off topic and out there as religion itself. Unknown to humans at this point in time.
"ALL religions of a spiritual nature are inventions of man. He has created an entire system of gods with nothing more than his carnal brain. Just because he has an ego, and cannot accept it, he has to externalize it into some great spiritual device which he calls "God". God can do all the things man is forbidden to do - such as kill people, perform miracles to gratify his will, control without any apparent responsibility, etc. If man needs such a god and recognizes that god, then he is worshiping an entity that a human being invented. Therefore, HE IS WORSHIPING BY PROXY THE MAN THAT INVENTED GOD.
Is it not more sensible to worship a god that he, himself has created in accordance with his own emotional needs - one that best represents the very carnal and physical being that has the idea-power to invent a god in the first place?"
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i know the sun isnt a ball of fire, but a giant nuclear reaction. I know the laws of gravity because I can jump up and come back down here on earth. I know 1+1=2 not because someone told me, but because it can be proven. I can have one apple and someone give me another apple and I'll have two apples. Proof is not someone's perception or interpretation. If I asked 100 people what I had, 100 people would say I had two apples.
We also know the alphabet works (as we're speaking the English language) and this has nothing to do with trying to prove the existence of god. This is a straw man fallacy. Which is common when trying to prove the existence of god.
I am an agnostic atheist so rock solid proof would have to present itself for me to be a believer.
Even if the Judeo-Christian god showed his existence, I still wouldn't worship him
I wouldn't either but I would have to see proof of existence.
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I know that God exists. That's all that matters to me
Well I could provide "evidence", though it isn't physical proof. It's something that only I understand and probably wouldn't make any sense at all to you or anyone else. Things that are too great to be a coincidence. There are simple significant "signs" that I see on a regular basis after he "spoke" to me. Like stated before I know there is a a higher power because my imagination is far too poor to make these types of things up and keep them consistent.
Unless it's physical, there is no evidence. Christianity is all based on beliefs. Not facts. There is no knowing when it comes to religion. It's all in what you believe or have been taught to believe. And I don't knock anyone for their beliefs. If that's what you need, then it's all you and it's all good. Who am I to judge you, yes? And never underestimate your imagination. It's far more powerful than you think, dude. Later, QD.
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I can respect your response. As far as my religion goes, my experience came out of nowhere. I never believed in any God nor did I think anything could change my mind. I suppose I have a lot a faith is something now, which I don't believe will have a negative effect on me. A lot of people these days just say they believe because they are afraid of what may happen to them someday. Others just follow what they have been taught their whole lives and treat it as a lifestyle, and don't truly understand what they are talking about. I do agree that the human mind is an incredible thing. There are many things that your mind is capable of, that which most people never experience or have an opportunity to use.
I don't really know where I am in religion. I have to believe that there is more out there than just us, but without evidence, it just makes it hard. I used to find myself trying to believe for that reason you stated in wondering if what the Bible says is true about what happens when you die. I stopped that because I knew it wasn't right. My stance is that I do believe there is something there, but have questions that will LITERALLY never be answered by anyone on this Earth. I don't live my life thinking God or Jesus will get me through it, but I do live according to what is told in the Commandments. But I mostly live by that because, to me, it is morally right. Later, QD.
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For once QD, I think we agree. Lol. I'm more of a prove it to me type of guy, like you say there is no physical evidence. I find it hard to live my entire life believing something that most likely isnt true. I have many discussions with friends and co-workers all the time. These are a few topics I brought up the other day when we were discussing it....
1. How many people do you know that have a religion that DIFFERS from their parents or their family? Do you REALLY think that most people get the opportunity to decide on their own, what religion they REALLY believe in? OR are they forced to believe what their family believes? With the exception of people who don't have a religion, EVERYONE i know believes what their family believes.
2. Doesn't it seem like most who are "chruch going" people are made out to be "better" then people who don't go to church? I'm a great guy and morally I make smart decisions. I've had problems in the past with parents wanting their daughters to date a "church going" guy. My question is, why do people think that automatically makes the guy worthy to date their daughter? When my daughter gets older, I'm going to get to know the guy she is dating on a personal level, not judge what he believes is going to happen when he dies......
No one can depend on their religion to get them through life. You are the only one that can control your life and believing otherwise is just ignorant. Everyone knows right from wrong and can make their own decision when the time comes. If I have even the slightest feeling of negativity from a situation I do not commit. I live my life as morally correct as I can, because living in this manner I believe only good karma will come my way. If I see someone that needs help where I can give them support I will be there for them. Not just because of religion, more of based on how I was raised and know what I should and shouldn't do.
All I can say is that if there is a god, and he requires being formally worshiped (churches and so on) then I really don't want anything to do with it. I grew up catholic, and the church always drilled it into our heads that you have to go to church to be a good catholic, which I did for a while. But as you get older you start to realize that people (including those who run your church) don't always tell the truth and don't always have your best interest in mind. Then you get exposed to a plethora of other religions and I've got to imagine that any logical person thinks, "Wow so many other people have such strong beliefs in other religions. How can I be so sure that MINE is the one that is absolutely correct and everyone else is wrong?". As it stands I am open to the existence of god, but as far as I'm concerned if there is a heaven my way will be paved by moral actions over my lifetime as opposed to worship. I think if there is an all knowing and understanding god... He will understand and respect my position... Agnostic
Im not Christian, but this website breaks it down pretty well.
http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/index.php
That is the stupidest website I have ever seen. I hope you don't think that it provides absolute proof that god exists
No, it wasn't proof. Just another point of view. I'm at a point where I dont need to look for some sort of mystery code to provide me evidence to know that theres a god. Its like asking why the sky is blue and the grass green. Its commen sense.
know = believe.
Common? Later, QD.
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So, it's common sense that God exists? Care to elaborate on that?
Why grass is green has been proven. Why the sky is blue has been proven.
The sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering. Chlorophyll makes plants green
No secret code there! This info has been published in text book in grade schools all over for years. Later, QD.
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Theres this book called the Quran(Bible,Torah) Thats dedicated entirely on the belief in god. If your actually looking for an understanding of why pple like me believe in the thing called god, then read an study it. Just like you would study every other theory or philosophy. Intead of debating an demanding answers from people who actually took the time to read.
I am muslim, i have finished the quran 4 times...
You might have evolved from a monkey, but not me.
We all evolved single-celled amoeba. Later, QD.
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If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys in today's world?
Is it star dust, single-cell amoeba or monkeys?
Spongebob Squarepants, sir. Later, QD.
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This is why I'm against religion and the belief in god. It makes it acceptable to shut our minds off to the answers and say "god did it".
And no one evolved from monkeys. This is a common evolutionary misconception. Evolutionary biology shows us that humans and modern primates have a common ancestor.
everything has a common ancestor...
Yeah, i guess the human eye was created from single cell amoeba...makes perfect sense
Now we're getting somewhere! Later, QD.
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