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    Quote Originally Posted by ahabion View Post
    You're comparing evolution (which is as much as a belief as any religion) and that of gravity? How absurd! That is like saying that there is a theory of oxygen in the air... *deep breath in* "Yea, I just don't know if there is oxygen in this air..."

    The "fact of evolution" refers to the changes in the genetic material of a population of organisms over time, which are known to have occurred through scientific observations and experiments. The "theory of evolution" refers to the modern evolutionary synthesis, which is the current scientific explanation of how these changes occur.

    Misuse and misunderstanding of these terms have been used to construct arguments disputing the validity of the theory of evolution. The fact of evolution is beyond dispute....again. I am not sure how else to explain this to you. Go to any real school that does not teach theology as a core curriculum might be a suggestion. The FACT that you do not know this is very sad to me, it means you were not taught basic biology. Evolution is change in the genetic material of a population of organisms through successive generations and can be verified through genes and traits. Early rudimentary experiments involved the English moth, and can be proven in plant life as well (like in high school lab....). Evolution was proven to be a fact even before Darwin, because without that FACT he would have never been able to write the Origin the Species and tie it together with natural selection. The term evolution is thrown around quite commonly right next to another basic phenomena of biology called "adaptation".

    What you are arguing is modern evolutionary synthesis....NOT evolution, but if you do not even understand the basic terminology OR the definitions. I am not sure how you can argue either one.

    And this would be be more absurd than what? the story of Genesis? Even if evolutionary synthesis is completely off-base, and research in other areas shows that the theory could never happen, it would still be more plausible than genesis. The ENTIRE book of Genesis is a relic from a forgotten time, it is simply no longer relevant. It's version of the creation of the known universe is a fantasy, and you cannot honestly expect anyone to accept it as truth. Science and education have put these silly notions to rest, it is just about time for the rest of the world to catch up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StreetHazard View Post
    The "fact of evolution" refers to the changes in the genetic material of a population of organisms over time, which are known to have occurred through scientific observations and experiments. The "theory of evolution" refers to the modern evolutionary synthesis, which is the current scientific explanation of how these changes occur.

    Misuse and misunderstanding of these terms have been used to construct arguments disputing the validity of the theory of evolution. The fact of evolution is beyond dispute....again. I am not sure how else to explain this to you. Go to any real school that does not teach theology as a core curriculum might be a suggestion. The FACT that you do not know this is very sad to me, it means you were not taught basic biology. Evolution is change in the genetic material of a population of organisms through successive generations and can be verified through genes and traits. Early rudimentary experiments involved the English moth, and can be proven in plant life as well (like in high school lab....). Evolution was proven to be a fact even before Darwin, because without that FACT he would have never been able to write the Origin the Species and tie it together with natural selection. The term evolution is thrown around quite commonly right next to another basic phenomena of biology called "adaptation".

    What you are arguing is modern evolutionary synthesis....NOT evolution, but if you do not even understand the basic terminology OR the definitions. I am not sure how you can argue either one.


    It is comedic that your assumption of what I know and don't know and then insulting my intelligence is your best representation of what evolution has to offer. It is also amusing that you speak of evolution like geoff speaks of his religion. Comparing the both of you can be seen as completely opposite poles of the same stick; both trying be the one who will be right and screaming, "Look at my evidence!"

    Any real school? I don't know about you, but all my science classes were mandatory... and you can have science and education as your foundation in life... good for you. It really is a good starting point in living life... but I'll take wisdom and insight over science and education any day and in any lifetime.

    Quote Originally Posted by StreetHazard View Post
    And this would be be more absurd than what? the story of Genesis? Even if evolutionary synthesis is completely off-base, and research in other areas shows that the theory could never happen, it would still be more plausible than genesis. The ENTIRE book of Genesis is a relic from a forgotten time, it is simply no longer relevant. It's version of the creation of the known universe is a fantasy, and you cannot honestly expect anyone to accept it as truth. Science and education have put these silly notions to rest, it is just about time for the rest of the world to catch up.
    Sure if you want to think of it that way but you don't seem quite so absolutely sure in your belief in evolution anymore... still be more plausible... basically what you're saying is... it would make more sense... So even if evolution was completely wrong... you would still believe in evolution because... it would just make more sense... hrm.. intersting observation.

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