here is another thing I do not understand. My wife's father is a preacher, I heard him talk about "if i pick up a squirt gun and pull the rigger and a bullet comes out and kills someone, I am guilty of murder by law, but God would forgive me: I did not know it would kill them I only thought to get them wet. however: if i pull the trigger on a real gun and water comes out and the person gets wet then by law i am free to go but in God's eyes I am a murderer, since I thought it would kill them." now... if drinking blood is an abomination to God... wouldn't drinking a substitute be just as heinous? you are drinking it because it symbolizes his blood. therefore: drinking blood. __________________