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    you know what i have heard nothing but bashing on God and christianity. i have a couple questions for you all that dont believe that there is a God and for those that believe there is something but its not God.

    1- why is it so farfetched and impossible for there to be a God that created everything and cares for us?

    2-why is evolution the right explanation and the only one? why cant God (intelligent design and creationism) coexist with science?

    3-what if all of you are wrong? what if there is a God you will one day have to answer to? what then?

    if me and every other christian out there are wrong and anyone who believes in God is wrong then at worst we lived a pure life not being selfish and loving others and then we just die. if your wrong then thats a whole different story now isnt it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoff
    1- why is it so farfetched and impossible for there to be a God that created everything and cares for us?
    "So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is really self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end, it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator? (pp. 156 - 157 of Brief History of Time)" - Stephen Hawking

    "Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. Perhaps it simply is, has been, will always be there. A clock without a craftsman." - Dr. Manhattan

    It is possible for there to be a creator. But as I say again: In the scope of everything, we are nothing. We are simply a complex chain of carbon and amino acids. We are no different in chemical structure than other animals. The same thing that happens when a plant, ant, or cockroach dies also happens to us. A god, if exists, whether a deity or pantheistic, must obey the laws of the universe. That means acceleration MUST ALWAYS be dv/dt; that is the derivative of velocity with respect to time. Conservation laws ALWAYS APPLY. And heat energy ALWAYS goes from an area of higher heat to an area of lower heat. Such as you can't extract heat from an icecube to heat up your coffee. Impossible.

    A god entity can't change the rules of physics. So hoping that a god entity cares for you by saving your life in a car crash, giving you a 100% on a quiz, or by allowing you to live a little bit longer when you have AIDS or cancer... impossible.

    A heaven or hell is impossible to exist. According to evolution, humans evolved from lower level life forms. Such as walking fish, a rodent looking thing, even single celled organisms. Even a sperm is a single cell, and it has life, it swims. A plant, a single cell organism, or even a sperm or an egg cell. Those things don't have brains. How can you judge something on wrong and right when it doesn't even have a brain? A walking fish, an rodent, a cockroach. All these things are animals such as us. Those creatures do not have the ability to be judged according to the way we think we are judged by a god entity.
    We are a continuation of the lineages of such creatures. So how can a heaven or hell exist back a billion years ago? Can you judge a single celled organism or simple sea plankton on being right or wrong? No.

    2-why is evolution the right explanation and the only one? why cant God (intelligent design and creationism) coexist with science?
    If are are refering to something like 'intelligent evolution' which is what a lot of people believe, then I would respond with the question: Why?
    Why would a god entity make the primates of the genus Pan seperate into Common Chimpanze (who live specifically north of the Congo River) and the very very tiny bit different Bonobo (who live specifically south of the Congo River)? And what would the purpose of having differnent Finch bird phenotypes on each of the islands of the Galapogos? If there was a god driven evolution, you would think it would make it so girls don't have to shave and men to not have nipples.

    3-what if all of you are wrong? what if there is a God you will one day have to answer to? what then?
    Then it will say "You lived your life, congratulations. Now have a cooke."


    if me and every other christian out there are wrong and anyone who believes in God is wrong then at worst we lived a pure life not being selfish and loving others and then we just die. if your wrong then thats a whole different story now isnt it?
    nope, because atheists can "live a pure life and not be selfish and love others". If a a god is that narsocisstic and egotistic to not allow people who lived a good life to get into a heaven... then fine. I don't like living with narsocisstic egotistic assholes anyway.

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