Do you believe in God? Simple question

[zimabog]

Do people still worship the sun, moon, and wind?

Most likely not.

One can say that god is just what they can't explain or don't know.

When a lightning storm comes do people say "oh its just water molecules rubbing against each other producing massive amounts of static electricity until it finally shoots to a ground source." or do they say "its zeus being mad."

So if there comes a point in history when everything people ever wanted to know becomes known and every action of nature becomes explainable. What place is there for a god?

[btstone]

So if there comes a point in history when everything people ever wanted to know becomes known and every action of nature becomes explainable. What place is there for a god?

i dont know if that will ever happen

[Buttons]

Do people still worship the sun, moon, and wind?

Most likely not.

One can say that god is just what they can't explain or don't know.

When a lightning storm comes do people say "oh its just water molecules rubbing against each other producing massive amounts of static electricity until it finally shoots to a ground source." or do they say "its zeus being mad."

So if there comes a point in history when everything people ever wanted to know becomes known and every action of nature becomes explainable. What place is there for a god?

there are actually couple of religion and beliefs that people have that they worship the sun, moon, wind, earth, fire, water, etc... Some even worship gods & goddesses.

there is more than just Christianity & agnostic/atheism. if you believe in roman /greek culture, you could say zeus is mad and throwing lightning bolts. people probably have never seen these people or i mean higher beings, but they believe because a bunch of people have made drawings, statues, writings, etc. that is the same as what happened with Christianity. You just need a following to help people believe.

[sport_122]

So if there comes a point in history when everything people ever wanted to know becomes known and every action of nature becomes explainable. What place is there for a god?

Thats actually part of the problem with placing too many eggs on science...it is a process of observation and even in our understanding of things we typically only end up with more questions.

For instance: how does a car work.
well it has an engine...combustion...carbon...fuel...man foot on the pedal... but then you start going from one question to hundreds. So we do not see the number of questions declining in science we see them multiplying. Many of them we think we will be able to answer, but many of them we KNOW we will NOT be able to answers...like the exact age of the earth, or the exact age of the universe. The only reason science can give account for these things now is because there used to be an understanding the SCIENCE IS NOT EXACT because everything cannot be reduced to numbers.

another example is the numerous versions of evolution and different theories that people have on that. Some say its specific selection, some say it is adaptation, some say its random mutation...and more...but it is NOT exact and the different schools of thought are all continuing their studies with their own beliefs in the foundation...this will most certainly yeild different results.



Yojimbo...WHAT THE CRAP? Thats going to take half an hour to read!

but i did catch this

the bible speaks of adam being created by dust well that just doesn;t seem plausible because dust doesn't contain dna, organ-signs or cells that give a human the ability to grow and mature.
it's not a living thing...

Abiogenesis is being worked on in a lab right now. They have gotten as far as amino acids,(which are the building blocks of life). It is in a process that is much like the early stages of the evolutionary argument as of the middle of the 1900's. I will let you look it up.

when you take 4 billion years into account the possibilities of you evolving are great... life and living things do not remain the same -- things change -- time changes -- conditions change -- all of the changes that occur affect a beings survival instinct and forces it to adapt and CHANGE.

if you're so familier with biology you should know that microorganisms have existed since the earth was created -- they are the building blocks to life. good or bad they provide life, they, were the first signs of life on earth NOT adam or eve.
tell me... do you think the earth is an organisms? i think that it is. although hard to comprehend it's existence - I don't see why earth couldn't be a living organism, since everything in the cosmos has a birth and death sequence...


sometimes I feel that homosapiens aren't that homo after all...
by this i mean the latin term for wise or smart. compared to less complicated organisms -- we're the only animals that give a fuck about any of this.

why?

I don't necessarily doubt evolution, I am just going to error on the side of caution because I realize that if we are to understand science we have to realize that even now our understanding of evolution or the processes of life are limited.

The earth cannot be a living organism based on the human definition of life. But you are trying to get philosophical. In doing so you are making another point of mine.

Your question of

we're the only animals that give a fuck about any of this.

why?

can only be answered philosophically and philosophically our universe had a singular origin, the logic we use cannot be defined by evolution, and our moral code has to be defined by something other than our individual chemical processes.

This is one of the big points that I make...science is good, but it cannot function without the knowledge and understanding of history, philosophy, and some understanding of culture because all these things blend together.

The reason I believe we are the only ones that care is because we are wired to, something inside of us says that we are responsible, and you are coming extremely close to arguing a point in Genesis where God gives man the responsibility of taking care of this world....but that is philosophical and not scientific, and the question you asked cannot be answered with science because it is not numerical. Philosophy pics up where science and history cannot fill in the gaps. Religious faith should be based off of a compilation of all of these things and then some.

[zimabog]

Thats actually part of the problem with placing too many eggs on science...it is a process of observation and even in our understanding of things we typically only end up with more questions.

Your response actually backed up my statement. Thank you.