obviously this thread has gotten out of hand. the people arguing against the existence of God have not studied Him or christianity. its funny i heard people say before that christianity is nothing but brainwashing people into believing what they believe....kinda sounds the same to me as when people argue that there cant be a God because science cant prove Him or disprove Him. so for all you out there that dont care to search yourself and use the methods or sociology, philosophy, psychology, and social sciences to find truth i say to you, keep living your life on beliefs that other people have pounded into your head and keep living in your close-minded in a box way of thinking. i myself used to not know what to believe untill i searched and found God. i am free now from the world view that has been implanted in us since we first start school.