Scripture a day (Islam Edition)

[David88vert]

Someone who spent 30+ years of their life as a muslim can offer an opinion.

I agree. Get him to post his opinion in here. You aren't him.

Your sample of life isnt any more credible than mine. Where does the superiority complex come from?

You are the one who talks about personal experience in previous topics, but now, when the tables are turned, and you do not have the same personal experience, then the rules have to change. Interesting.
The fact is, you have no personal experience (that you have stated up to now) with Muslims who are active in you faith.

How many times has my country been attacked by muslims? the answer... enough.

I agree.
It has also been attacked by the British even more times than Muslims have attacked. Should we kick out all British?

What i say is not hate speech. The truth is not hate speech. You cant ignore the crimes of muslims and pretend they didnt happen. If youre arguing for the honor of the muslims that live peacefully, that's fine. I know 100% of muslims are not extremist, so you can stop now. Point has been made. 1000s of people still die in the name of this religion. The people doing the killing are muslims. The people doing the beheading are muslims. The people pouring acid on womens faces are muslims. The people cutting off hands and fingers are muslims. The people raping women and children are muslims. I find it hilarious that you accuse me of hate speech. I'm the one questioning the endless bloodshed on behalf of all religions..... you're the one defending this bloodshed.

You state now that, "What i say is not hate speech. The truth is not hate speech", but in the other thread, you stated, "Fuck every single muslim walking this planet." To me, that reads as hate speech, not as "the truth". I based my statement of what you stated, clearly and simply.

Let me be clear, I am not telling you to ignore the crimes committed by terrorists, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, atheist, etc. I am pointing out a simple truth that the VAST majority of people of all religions live peacefully, and only extremists perform these heinous acts. They use religion as an excuse and a justification of their wrong-doings.

You point out extremists and act like all atrocities committed are due to their religious beliefs, yet we see Mexicans committing these same style of crimes at our borders, and you say nothing. I am not defending bloodshed, I am simply stating that you cannot make a blanket statement that all of the evil in the world is due to Islam, or that all that believe in Islam are evil. The statement from you, "Islam is filth", is hate speech, which you are entitled to make, but don't be surprised when you are called out on it.

How are these extremist so misguided? Do you not find it odd that there's an easy connection to make between their actions and the scripture itself.

People commit evil acts when it benefits them, and try to justify it - sometimes with religion, sometimes with other arguments. Aren't you a person that believes in personal responsibility? A book cannot make a person do evil acts - they have to choose to do those acts themselves.

You've made your entire argument an attack on me personally. All of the hostility in this thread is generated by you. I am reading the Koran....... apologies, it's not a Dr Sues book and i wont be done with it this weekend. I also plan on visiting a Mosque. I also attend christian churches. I have a few friends that play in their choir bands and i go watch them sometimes. They dont even know i'm an atheist. Religion is a curiosity to me, particularly its control over man.

Let me be clear - I am not attacking you, and I am not being hostile. I am simply pointing out issues with your statements. I have no dislike for you, or any problem with you, just that your statements are nothing more than opinions (which you are entitled to have) with no stated foundation. You claimed that you wanted a discourse on the surahs, but apparently, only if everyone agrees with you.

I agree that you should visit a mosque, a Buddhist temple, and a Jewish synagogue as well. Perhaps you should develop more friends of different religions if you have an interest in learning about them. I predict that you will find that the majority of people have the same goals as most - to give their children a better life that they have had.

I find it strangely interesting that this religion has even generated hate inside you, an otherwise calm and rational person. Perhaps it's influence is greater than you realize. When i see people talk about religion sometimes i feel like there's some type of brain control device putting out waves that i am immune to. From the outside looking in, it really is amazingly ridiculous.

Hatred from me? Are you on crack? I have no animosity towards anyone regarding Islam. I'm not Muslim, and don't aspire to be. I haven't made one hateful statement in any of these threads. You might want to look at your earlier statements. You are the one making blanket statements about a religion that you have shown that you know almost nothing about - based upon your own statements.

PS.... beheading in the US. Egyptian Christian Immigrants Murdered, Beheaded in NJ

I'm guessing that you missed that he shot both of them to death first, then cut off their heads and hands in an attempt to prevent identification. The article never states that this was a religion-based killing, and even goes so far as to say that he was not particularly religious. The only people that speculated on it were disconnected from the accused. How is this any different than a "normal" murder? Perhaps you have more information than this article?

Islamist extremism is an epidemic in the UK, with more and more immigration, these problems will make there way to the US. You cant make up your own facts. Regardless of how many innocent muslims you think there are, these vile acts on behalf of islam continue to happen daily.

Extremism is an issue in the UK, and it might become an issue in the US in the future - I agree.
There are abut 2.6 innocent Muslims in the US today, would you have us condemn them all?
These vile acts are performed every day at the Mexico-Texas border, but I haven't heard you rant about that yet - only if there is some religious element that might be tied to it. In fact, murders happen all over the world every day, but you seem to be selective on these, and want to blame the religion, rather than the person that commits the crime.