Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
How is lethal injection, hanging, firing squad, or the electric chair any more civilized than beheading? The end result is the same - a quick death for those that have committed crimes that call for capital punishment. Are you against all capital crime, or just the ones that you don't like? As for treatment of war prisoners, do you believe that we did not torture Muslims at Gitmo, or the other black sites in Europe? Do you think that US operatives have never cut off fingers to extract information? If you think that the US doesn't torture, I have some seaside property to sell you in Montana.

Religion is not the cause for war. Men using religion in their quest for power and land is the cause of war. Just like a gun cannot shoot someone without a person picking it up and pulling the trigger, a book cannot do anything until someone uses it's writings.

There is no need for justification of belief - we are discussing historical facts, and you keep confusing yourself by trying to apply your current modern beliefs with ancient times.

Since you do not seem to realize this basic concept, you should move onto the next scripture.
How does pointing out evil excuse other evil? You're saying basically "these people did something evil, so that justifies the evil acts endorses by Islam". You get no argument from me that there's plenty of other evil in the world. Lethal injection is designed to be humane and painless. Beheading, as it is described in the Quran specifically says it is an exhibition meant to strike fear into other enemies.

Why do you need to attach insult into your opinion that i am confusing my current beliefs with ancient times? I cant fathom it ever being normal for someone to cut someone's head off. I dont care what the time period was. I find it even more difficult to comprehend a religion endorsing this behavior, no matter what the time period was.
Is me feeling this way really worthy of criticism? The fact that i cant rationalize religious beheading? Does that make me a bad person? I guess so.

So when a Muslim films himself sawing off the head of an innocent civilian for the sole purpose of mailing it to america, is that not them striking fear into their enemies the same as the Quran described?

Final comment on this scripture. My next post will introduce a new one.