Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
Sounds like your "reality" is a place where you can make up the rules as you go. Why cant i apply modern thinking to history? Sounds like you're guilty of confusing your own opinions with facts.
I am not "making up rules". I am remembering that the ancient world did not have the same viewpoints that we do today. I am not condoning their actions, I am simply looking at how the scriptures were written in the context of historical times, of which we have documentation on - that is not "making things up".

I suggest that you do a little research on the times of Mohammed. There are ample resources available, including documentaries.

Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
How can you say that the extremist are going to the outer fringes of their beliefs? they are the ones following the letter of the law. Beheading and disfigurement is not the "outer fringe", it's Islam. It's part of the religion. It's part of the book.
Extremists are on the outer fringes of their beliefs - hence the term, extremist. They are not mainstream to their religion.
Yes, it part of the Islamic scriptures, and as I stated before, how is that any different that what we do now? How is beheading a worse death that electrocution? It just happened to be the popular method of execution in that part of the world at that time.

Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
The natural evolution of things is that with time we have evolved and become more intelligent. With our new found intelligence, we are more civilized. The culmination of that is that most intelligent people learn to put aside religion all together, but to those few who are clinging to it, you cant just rewrite the book and erase the parts of you dont like. I'm aware that 100% of muslims are not evil people and that a portion of them, like christians, follow the moral code laid out and ignore the "fire and brimstone". Islam the religion itself is one of the greatest evils plaguing mankind today. That doesnt mean that every muslim who has fallen victim to it is evil.
That is purely your opinion, and you are welcome to believe that if you like. It has no bearing on the discussion of the Islamic scriptures though, and by your own rules, shouldn't be included in this thread. If this is the route that you wish to go in discussion, then this thread can be locked/deleted/abandoned now.

Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
Also, who are you to say that the values of islam have changed since acient history?? You say beheading, disfigurement and all of these other war tactics are acient history.....
While this is totally off the topic that this thread should be on, let me give you this insight.
My business partner for almost a decade was a devoted Muslim, and I spent a lot of time with his other Muslim friends, business acquaintances, etc. Being around Muslims on a daily basis, for large parts of everyday, gives you an opportunity to see how they are, what they believe, etc. Have you ever been around Muslims everyday for years on end? You make a big deal about your life experiences about your observations of other cultures in other threads - should no one else have this same insight on Muslim cultures? Let me ask you this, how many radical Islamic extremists and/or terrorist have you personally met, and spent time with? What is your knowledge and experience with the Muslim culture based upon?

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correct me if im wrong.... isnt there a civil war taking place right now? it is 2013 right?
Yes, there is a civil war in Syria currently, and if we are to believe all of your previous threads, we are on the verge of having one in the US soon as well. Are you aware that the current Mexican Drug War is also listed as a civil war? Last I checked, they don't believe in Islam, and religion is not playing a part in that conflict. What part does the Islamic scriptures play as a cause/reason in the Syrian conflict?