View Poll Results: What is your opinion of Islam?

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  • I am a Christian, i do not support Islam.

    1 16.67%
  • I am a Christian, i do support Islam.

    2 33.33%
  • I am a non-believer and do not support Islam.

    1 16.67%
  • I am a non-believer and support Islam.

    0 0%
  • I am a Muslim or am considering becoming one.

    0 0%
  • I am not sure how i feel about Islam.

    0 0%
  • I have a very negative opinion of Islam.

    3 50.00%
  • I have a very positive opinion of Islam.

    2 33.33%
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Thread: Scripture a day (Islam Edition)

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    22 [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him].
    23 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.
    24 But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.


    What message is being sent when it says that stones are prepared for disbelievers? It basically says, if your god is real, then your god will protect you from being stoned. I also like how this scripture reeks of arrogance. The Quran is full of gamesmanship and has a very condescending way of talking about other religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    22 [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him].
    23 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful.
    24 But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.


    What message is being sent when it says that stones are prepared for disbelievers? It basically says, if your god is real, then your god will protect you from being stoned. I also like how this scripture reeks of arrogance. The Quran is full of gamesmanship and has a very condescending way of talking about other religions.
    That is a huge surah, and that part is simply a declaration that the message coming from Allah through Mohammed is the truth, and that the Jew of Medina (and everyone else) should believe it as the truth, but they are aware that the ignorant will not believe it to be the truth. Non-believers will suffer the wrath of Allah, and may be stoned basically for the crime of not believing it to be the truth.

    What is it exactly that you want to discuss about it? Seems like you are just taking a swipe at belittling their scriptures with your last two sentences, as there is no information that goes towards a talking point.

    You did not mention what the surah was, but it is Surah Al-Baqarah.

    You might want to consider choosing scriptures that are more discussion worthy, if you original post was intended by you to be genuine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post

    What is it exactly that you want to discuss about it? Seems like you are just taking a swipe at belittling their scriptures with your last two sentences, as there is no information that goes towards a talking point.

    You did not mention what the surah was, but it is Surah Al-Baqarah.

    You might want to consider choosing scriptures that are more discussion worthy, if you original post was intended by you to be genuine.
    It is your opinion that i'm taking it out of context, then put it in context for me. That is the discussion. I'm quoting scriptures. I've already stated that i am participating as the skeptic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    It is your opinion that i'm taking it out of context, then put it in context for me. That is the discussion. I'm quoting scriptures. I've already stated that i am participating as the skeptic.
    Quoting a random scripture, and then giving no discussion point on it, accomplishes nothing. Make a point, and then show the scriptures that show or disagree with it. You didn't spend any time on the debate team in school, did you?

    You definitely took it out of context - you didn't even give a reference to it, nor a talking point, just copied a random verse. Read the whole surah, and go look at history to see what it was being written about first, then state your point about it, along with supporting text/viewpoints/historical facts.
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