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    Natural selection is the nonrandom process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    Natural selection is the nonrandom process by which biological traits become either more or less common in a population as a function of differential reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution.
    Alright now we're getting somewhere! Now let's apply that knowledge to real life.

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    Yes, believe the one guy with a conspiracy theory but not the millions with religion...

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    The answer is 42.

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    Lol echo...

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    I dont get why you would rather believe the one guy with an idea, rather than intricate religious texts and beliefs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    Yes, believe the one guy with a conspiracy theory but not the millions with religion...
    It's not one guy that believes in evolution. It is accepted throughout the scientific community, all over the world, something that can't be said about any religion. Also, just because a million people believe in religion doesn't mean it's true. Remember, a few hundred years ago, everyone "believed" the earth was flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    I dont get why you would rather believe the one guy with an idea, rather than intricate religious texts and beliefs
    Because your religion is based solely on an "intricate text" written by multiple people over the course of hundreds of years

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    The only thing accepted throughout the scientific community is that we evolved from monkeys, only because of the bone structure...how come monkeys cant speak? Why is there still monkeys if they transformed into humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    The only thing accepted throughout the scientific community is that we evolved from monkeys, only because of the bone structure...how come monkeys cant speak?
    We didnt evolve from monkeys, nor is that commonly accepted In the scientific community. That is a creationist misconception. The reason we are related isn't only bone structure. It's behavioral patterns, muscle/organ layout, DNA. Other primates have their own form of communication for the same reason dogs and cats and birds have their own form of communication. Vocal chord structure, environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    rather than intricate religious texts
    These "intricate religious texts" don't prove anything. They don't prove that any God had any say in any thing. Anyone, if they put their mind to it, can fabricate a book and say a higher power was the reason. Authors have been around for years. Even with fiction books, there are similarities to real life events. Just as in the Bible.

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    and beliefs
    Because of just that. It's beliefs. Not facts. Big difference. Later, QD.
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    And this is why I am an agnostic atheist. Modern day literature is factual simply because we can physically see with our own eyes what the book tells us. No "religious literature" proves anything. We did not evolve from monkeys. One of the frogs was tired and didn't want to jump higher than the other.

    The debate of whether "God" or "Allah" exists will go on forever and will likely never be proven.



    A question to the religious people in here: How do you know your religion is the right one?
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    So i guess humans are going to evolve too right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    So i guess humans are going to evolve too right?
    Doubtful but I would assume anything is possible. Not in my lifetime though.
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    And im guessing a Giraffe was a dog at some point,it just kept trying to eat tree leaves and its neck just grew... right?

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    Either you aren't making any sense or I am having a hard time understanding what exactly it is you are trying to prove.
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    It is because you have no explanation about the giraffe.

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    Nobody has nor will they have an explanation about the giraffe. Even the ancestry between humans and monkeys hasn't been proven. There is a vast difference between where animals "evolved" from and the existence of any one deity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    I dont get why you would rather believe the one guy with an idea, rather than intricate religious texts and beliefs
    The idea can be proven or disproved. Nothing contained within religious texts can be proven.
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    You think humans aren't evolving?

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    How?In what way?

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    The only way I see it is body shapes and generalized adaptation to the ever growing world we create for ourselves.
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    Evolution means the one with the better traits THRIVES and the other DIES OUT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    The debate of whether "God" or "Allah" exists will go on forever and will likely never be proven.
    I was actually hoping that it would be proven in this thread....tonight.

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    Evolution means the one with the better traits THRIVES and the other DIES OUT...
    This is called Survival of the Fittest. Not evolution. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    How?In what way?
    Humans are evolving! There are many examples. I'll elaborate when I get home.

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    "Survival of the fittest" is a phrase originating in evolutionary theory, as an alternative description of Natural selection.

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    Keep hoping, QD. Won't happen. If by some act of Congress it does get proven tonight, grab my number from Kevin and call me. That will be worth a round of beers ( and Mtn. Dew in your case ) for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefit View Post
    "Survival of the fittest" is a phrase originating in evolutionary theory, as an alternative description of Natural selection.
    I see someone has gotten their theology degree from Wikipedia, lolol. Later, QD.
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    Bottom line is the existence of any one deity cannot be physically proven, and therefore will remain in a theoretical state until proven otherwise.

    Idea > Theory > (empty space where research will determine if the theory can be proven) > Fact or Fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post

    Idea > Theory > (empty space where research will determine if the theory can be proven) > Fact or Fiction.
    You'll be waiting a long time...

    No scientific law has ever been proven to be absolute, the existing ones just haven't been proven wrong yet... But we are kinda comparing apples to oranges. Science and Religion operate on two different planes. One is based on the physical universe, the other is not.

    If we all came from single-celled amoeba... Where did the single-celled amoeba come from? What catalyst caused it to form and sparked it into life? How did it know it was alive? How did it know it wanted to survive?



    Anyway, I'm not really here to debate anyone. Science has proven no one will change their mind based on an internet posting.

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    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Echonova again

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    Echonova brings the lulz

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    Name ONE thing that Jesus has personally done for you or anyone that you know in the last 5 years -- actually make it 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    If we all came from single-celled amoeba... Where did the single-celled amoeba come from? What catalyst caused it to form and sparked it into life? How did it know it was alive? How did it know it wanted to survive?
    I really was just kidding. I don't really have any beliefs on any of this. I think we're all just here. Later, QD.
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    Lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Humans are evolving! There are many examples. I'll elaborate when I get home.
    First I'll explain how science shows modern primates and humans are connected. There is an ancient homonid species, A. afarensis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus_afarensis), which is what the scientific community now regards as the common ancestor between us and modern primates. Separating it and putting it in different environmental situations, we can both agree that it would adapt to its surroundings. We are a result of millions of years of evolution of that adaptation, whatever the selected trait was, humans resulted from it, and primates resulted from a different selected trait, and within primates, they all resulted from their own selection. Think of it more like a tree than a line.

    Years ago scientists found remains of an early human species. It had a similar skull and DNA similarities. That was about 200k-40k years ago. We can tell the age from the radiocarbon dating process. So you're not gonna see major evolutionary (morphologically human) changes in your lifetime. Not in about 100 of your lifetimes. Changes are gradual, and evolution is a VERY time consuming process. However, there are smaller evolutionary changes. There are studies that show lactose tolerance is a desirable evolutionary trait, and it is readily measurable. Another evolutionary change is ASPM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASPM_%28gene%29).
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    Bottom line is the existence of any one deity cannot be physically proven, and therefore will remain in a theoretical state until proven otherwise.

    Idea > Theory > (empty space where research will determine if the theory can be proven) > Fact or Fiction.
    This is the reason I love it when creationists say "evolution is just a theory" I agree with them 100% on that. Theory is a hypothesis supported with facts, evidence, and repeated conclusive testing. The believe in creation, god, jesus, and the bible, on the other hand isnt supported by any of those. So those of us in the scientific community call that a "conjecture"

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    Using all these big ass words is now really starting to confuse me. Later, QD.
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