Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
that is true but my question is this. how is the big bang theory accepted as a theory for the origin of life if it just leads you back to the question of who made it happen or who or what put it into motion

This is the same thing with God.
If the BB theory is true, and there's strong evidence that it is, but for some strange reason had a creator--then who created it? It's a never ending cycle of questions. There's no possible way that a "being" can "be" just because. God doesn't have a creator, doesn't have an origin, doesn't have a comparable force, so technically, from what I got from you, you're saying that there is only one. One!? I mean, you cannot be serious, can you?


Quote Originally Posted by geoff
actually logically God can be what the Bible says. God can not just be energy, the Creator of everything would have to have some logic in order to create the laws of physics that bind this universe. The Creator would have had to put a purpose to everything in order for things to be the way they are. the Creator would have had to have motivation in order to create something otherwise the law of cause and effect would not hold any value. your idea of God as an energy is no different then the big bang theory, some force or energy for no reason decided to blow up and create everything and still for no reason sustains everything

So God is all. How did you calculate that?
The difference between your calculations and science is that scientific calculations don't not need to describe movements as a series of stills, nor are infinitesimal points in space or time purely abstract math.
When you look at your speedometer in your Trans Am, you're not seeing a representation of where you are, you're seeing a representation of the change of where you are.
The laws of nature work mathematically, the relation between any two characteristics of the universe can be described as such.

The thing is that your God has been getting smaller and smaller the more we learn. The more we learn, the less relevant "it" becomes. Now "he's" restrained it to be literally impossible to exist even partially as a concept. That to concieve makes it vanish, like a leprechaun or some shit. What are we? All inbreds?