Christians...do you drink?

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First you didnt hear any such thing from me.
Second, that isnt even close to the "same line of thought" but something completely different. Interesting subject shift.

wasn't trying to change the subject, nor did i say it came from you, just making an observation and asking for your take on it. you quoted examples of how drinking was involved in some bad things happening to ppl in the Bible. i quoted the only 2 examples of birthday celebrations in the bible, both with less than happy endings as well, and asked for your opinion about it. usually you don't have a problem sharing your views

Well I did but lets have at it again.
Your assumption is that "too much to drink" conveys only alcoholic beverage is based upon our notion regarding the word wine. It is customary to serve the best food/drink first at a catered party, when people have eaten/drank their fill then food/drink items of lesser quality are then served for any lesser remaining hunger/thirst. I have seen this time and again at many parties.

sorry...but there are some glaring holes in your argument here. first you say I am making an assumption about "too much to drink" referring to our modern notion of wine, but yet you turn right around and do the very same thing by making the comment about what's "customary" at catered parties and what you've SEEN at parties. lol.

personally, i've seen the exact opposite at catered parties. appetizers, finger foods, and salads are usually served first with punch or something else cheap to make a lot of. this will be the staple drink of the night. then you get the main course, at which point the champagne/wine is served for a toast. after that, you get dessert, and more of the bubbly if you want. the caterer will plan to make enough food to feed precisely the amount of ppl scheduled to attend. it's pretty organised and controlled. usually you are charged per person/plate. and if there's a bar, they're usually charging on an individual basis anyways

and up to now, you still have yet to explain what ELSE the phrase "too much to drink" could have possibly meant to the Jews during this time period. it just doesn't fit with the explanation you offered. maybe others are getting it and i'm just slow...

lemme word it differently...what does it mean to the 1st century Jews (or to ANYBODY for that matter) to have "too much" of a non-alcoholic beverage??? and in what way would having "too much" of such a beverage make you more accepting of an inferior drink??? sorry but it just doesn't add up.

again...your explanation is definitely plausible but you have to give some credence to the other side of the argument as well. that's all i'm saying.