xMAS and Christianity???

[ISAtlanta300]

I don't talk/listen to devils. Spirits of people is who I deal with.

Even you have to admit that this can be debated. Where is the proof that the voices of the "spirits" are actually from dead people? Did they tell you their name and carry on a conversation with you? What you have are snippets of video and audio that can be debunked by sceptics and scientists.

Mind you, I am not questioning your evidences. But even with sooo much evidence there is still so much speculation of what a spirit is, and isn't. You may believe that they are ghosts. Others may question your belief, but it does not change your faith, and that whatever they are, that they ARE there.

Same thing with christians. They chose to believe because what they see is evident of God's hand and creation. Just because you do not see it, does not change their beliefs.

Both of you could be wrong, but then again, both of you could be right.

Au revoir, IS3

[metalman]

Even you have to admit that this can be debated. Where is the proof that the voices of the "spirits" are actually from dead people? Did they tell you their name and carry on a conversation with you? What you have are snippets of video and audio that can be debunked by sceptics and scientists.

Indeed. Its such a simple stupid trick of the devil, its amazing how many poor souls fall for it. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that satan knows the details of the lives of the departed. He can easily impersonate them or reveal details of their lives. He appeared to Saul in the Bible imperosonating Samuel the prophet. That was right before Saul killed himself of course.
The fact that under a theocracy the children of Isreal were to kill any witches or necromancers...(those who talk to the "dead") should clearly indicate that there is absolutely no chance of it being anything BUT the devil as well.
If you believe in God that would require belief in his Word as well and that is VERY clear!

"No doubt but ye are the people, and wisdom shall die with you.
But I have understanding as well as you; I am not inferior to you: yea, who knoweth not such things as these?
For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep."

Speaking of the dead...

"His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them"

"The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence"

"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish"

"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest"

Being DEAD = NOT ALIVE ANYWHERE, not awake, no thoughts, no wisdom, no conscousness, no communication, nothing!


Quite a thread topic drift....as for Xmas...I have no problem with it, I just like to be clear that it is not now or ever been a true Christian thing...its simply glossed over, renamed pagan nonsense primarily brought about in later centuries by the catholic church, although there are other influences as well. The name Christmas doesnt offend me. Its not my name.