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    Quote Originally Posted by b@d @pple
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    these are the qualities of an omnipotent god

    If god is almighty there are several qualities he must have. They are as follows:

    * He must know everything. Everything that is, everything that has been and everything that will be. To be able to know everything that will be he must know every position and every momentum of every particle in cosmos (Laplace's "World Spirit").
    * He must be worth our worship. A being that is not worth worshipping is no god.
    * He must be able to do anything. If there are things that god can't do, he certainly is not omnipotent.
    * He must be above time. Something that even St. Augustine deduced. But not only that, god must stand above all possible dimensions.
    Indeed. Those would be the characteristics of God.

    Quote Originally Posted by b@d @pple
    * He cannot be 'good' or 'evil' or, indeed, have any subjective characteristica. If god is all good, he cannot do evil things and cannot be almighty. Most people would object and say that good can do evil but chooses not to do it. Well, if god is all good he can't choose to do evil things, can he?
    Good is good and evil is evil. Good can not do evil as much as water can be fire. What is your definition of evil? There is a wonderful example of this online somewhere that I have once read.

    Let us put it like this. What is light? Light is the sun to you, right? Can you see light? Yes you can. You see it during the day. You can see its prism and its spectrum. You can see that true light is comprised of several layers of colors on various wavelengths and radio wave, yada yada yada. In fact, you can probably give me 1000' of analysis and proof of light.

    Now what is darkness? Can you define it? The first thought that would come into your mind is "well, darkness is, dark... black... ". Yes, yes.. but Darkness is not a color, now is it? Can you see darkness? "wel yea," you would argue "if you walk into a room with no light, you can't see anything. Everything is black" BINGO. Jump all up and down, but the conclusion that you must come up with is that darkness is the ABSENCE of light. Take a look around. The sun sets, it becomes dark. Where there are no stars, it is dark. When you flick the lightswitch to off, it becomes dark. Therefore, Darkness is the absence of light. If there is light, darnkess fades.

    The same can be applied to Evil. Evil is the absence of Good. God is almighty, and is all good. It can not be evil. It can create it though, and HE DID, to prove that he is almighty. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Devil.



    Let's us take it a step further. Where does light come from? Light has a source. A lamp. The sun. The stars. All emit light. Light is created.

    Can you create dark? Wel, can you? Can you darken a room that has light in it? the answer is "Only by removing the source of light". You can not come into a room with sunlight, and flick on a switch and make it dark. You have to close the drapes etc. Darkness is NOT created out of a source. Darkness is ONLY CREATED by removing the source of light !!

    This is a perfect example about the paradox about good and evil. It is therefore not a coincidence that God is often referred as the source of light, and the Devil is referred as the prince of darkness.

    Think about it. God is the lightbulb. He does not create darkness (evil) as a SOURCE. WE create Darkness by REMOVING the LIGHTSOURCE (God), out of our lives. The Devil can NOT create darkness (evil) as a source. He IS darkness (evil).

    But ultimately the darkness (Evil) remains dependable and related to light (God). And while the light (God), is ultimately responsible for both, as a SOURCE, it can not BE both.
    Last edited by ISAtlanta300; 12-16-2005 at 05:37 PM.
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