xMAS and Christianity???

[trini_gsr]

there's a lot of reaching in those arguments you posted. we could go into picking them out still, if you really wanna debate...but i think the thing to realise is that belief systems, be it religious or scientific, are usually based on unprovable assumptions.

for example, scientists don't yet have an sure explanation to where the matter came from that exploded with the big bang. they just assume that part and build from there. all of euclidean geometry is built on the assumed and unprovable 5 Postulates. and so on...

so it's really simple. you can either believe God exists and build from there, or you can believe God doesn't exist and build from there. it's all based on an assumption, that you should logically make given the facts. this can be argued in either direction. i personally believe in a higher power, because there are things that science has yet to explain (like why stuff like voodoo, witchcraft, etc works).

[b@d @pple]

agreed!

[metalman]

for example, scientists don't yet have an sure explanation to where the matter came from that exploded with the big bang. they just assume that part and build from there.

Some scientists have discovered radioactive "halos" in the foundation rock of the earth. These occurances last less then a nano second yet are frozen in granite. All non Creator theorys involve TIME and LOTS of it to form this rock. So much for that theory.
Is there a more plausible answer? Yes...God spoke...and it WAS. Instantly!

As you say, "they just assume"....non Creator origin theory takes a great deal of faith and overlooking glaring evidence to believe.

[{X}Echo419]

everything "must" come from somewhere. an absolute nothingness can't create anything. it's like having an empty fish tank and expecting the fish to just appear. it's can't happen. believing some nerd in a dark room with a test tube tells you about the creating of everything sounds alot more stupid than believing in a higher power.

tring to understand the creation of the whole flippen universe with our technology and scientific abilities is like one of you trying balance the national budget alone with 1 calaulator. there is not way, your infantile minds couldn't handle it.

Einstein did many great things and some terriable ones too. but one thing he did not discover or prove the SOURCE OF ALL FRIGGIN THINGS EVER!

ya, got pwned on the "holliday tree" issue so ya need to go somewhere else with the topic advocating an issue that gets beat to death by up tight pricks on college campuses (spelling) everyday. an issue that "can't be proven" period. there's only 3 ways this can be found out for sure by any of us, 1.we die 2. God/Jesus slaps us all in the face and says "WTF, you talkin' bout' willis?" 3. one of our friends turns out to be an alien and right before the earth is destroyed were beamed abord an alien ship. after whice we go on an interstellar journey only to find out the the meaning to life is 42.

Merry Christmas!

[metalman]

ya, got pwned on the "holliday tree" issue so ya need to go somewhere else with the topic advocating an issue that gets beat to death by up tight pricks on college campuses

Thanks for the unsolicted "advice" but I feel free to respond to whatever topical issues or questions arise in the course of any discussion.
I didnt get "pwned" on any holiday tree issue. Perhaps you didnt read carefully. I have no objection to the word christmas, having trees, or the american people celebrating it or not. I only pointed out the real meaning and orgin of it all and that in fact it was never a christian thing to begin with.