that is what i'm getting at... in your post you mentioned crimes against children, lieing, stealing... i am talking about LaVey satanism now, there is nothing in there that says that is what a satanist does (as a practice). Now is there satanist that lie, steal, or molest children? Yes, all people no matter the religion are capable of that. Furthermore it is against the Satanic Statements to hurt a child, so that is one part where i do not agree w/ everything you posted as truth.Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
well in the sense of worship as bowing down praising/praying... that is not 100% accurate. You can be a satanist and not physically worship the devil. Now like i stated earlier, self worship is basically the opposite of what christianity b/c you are putting yourself over divine being; and i did quote LaVey on this idea.You and holding on to the idea that Satanism is about self worship.
Call it what you want. However you want to disect it. SATANism is the worship of SATAN, or the direct refusal of all that the Christian church stands for. Go with either definition and the answer is clear. The worship of SATAN is indeed the worship of SATAN. Rebellion agains God and Christ is the worship of SATAN. You either worship GOD or SATAN. There is no "referee" or Middleman.
That is all true, but just b/c you indulge instead of abstain doesn't me you are worshiping satan. In that case every person who sin in the christian religion is worshiping satan.On "The Satanic Bible", the "9 Satanic Statements" claim that "Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence". Represents materialism, instead of pipe dreams. Vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek. Satan represents man as just another animal, more often worse, the most vicious animal of all.
ok break this down w/ an open mind... i know christians who would agress w/ these statements w/o knowing the source... "Here and now is our day of joy", proclaims, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred fold!"... kindness to those who deserve it, but if you want to kill them, do it!, morally or physically, because the main doctrine is "do what you want".I am not christians/satanist and i agree 100%.
Take what i put in bold there are many statements just like this... it is not a pretty statement but it is the true and is reality. You/Jaime/Me/etc.. all do the same thing, so how bad is it if you are more than capable of doing the same thing?
I don't refute the fact that the rituals to speak of satan, but you have to remember this is a Self Worship religion, you can make it what you want it to be basically, i can quote LaVey if need be on this, b/c he and the church flat come out and state that "they do not look for followers, but leaders"... if he wanted to start a cult he would of. It is based on freely thinking can doing what you desire; if thats praising the devil, eating ice cream, grave robbing, dressing in womens clothing, etc... you take it as you will.Is that is not about adoring the Devil then I do not know what is.
I have read the S. Bible atleast 2x, from a reality stand point many of the ideas are on par w/ reality even w/ christians i know, keep in mind i'm not talking about the rituals.
If you want to dress all in black, wave a sword over a naked woman alter, and invoke the devil... but you can just as easily do it behind a fancy suit, interpeting the bible w/ a 1800 number taking peoples money granting miracles![]()