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^ your still missing the point... if i say CHRISTIANS ARE CHILD MOLESTERS is that true? I can back it up i can show you many of cases of preist banging alter boys. So it is ok for me to make that generalization then?
Paul, paul.. you are dealing with 2 different animals here. It is one thing to say that a lot of priests had molested children, which is NOT part of being a Christian or practicing Christianism. It is WRONG in the view of THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH and it is NOT something that CHRISTIANS do.

It is ONE OTHER THING to "allege" that MOST satanist DO NOT practice one form or another of that what was described above, which is RIGHT in the VIEW of THEIR CHURCH.

Do what you will shall be law, right??? It is mentioned in the book of LAVEY. I did not say that !!!

You and holding on to the idea that Satanism is about self worship.

Call it what you want. However you want to disect it. SATANism is the worship of SATAN, or the direct refusal of all that the Christian church stands for. Go with either definition and the answer is clear. The worship of SATAN is indeed the worship of SATAN. Rebellion agains God and Christ is the worship of SATAN. You either worship GOD or SATAN. There is no "referee" or Middleman.


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I did state that it he was posting generalized statments and i would no refute that some are not false, b/c i know for a fact that some of the statements posted are true... now the point is to weed through the fog and discuss what the religion is about (ie. quote from the bible not opinions) or what they support. I very easily posted the words from LaVey stating it is a religion about self worship; even though you think it deals w/ Devil Worship. That is how a discussion works, on educated questions and answers; not general statements or assumptions.
Then how could you have missed such passages from LAVEY HIMSELF???

On "The Satanic Bible", the "9 Satanic Statements" claim that "Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence". Represents materialism, instead of pipe dreams. Vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek. Satan represents man as just another animal, more often worse, the most vicious animal of all.

... "Here and now is our day of joy", proclaims, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred fold!"... kindness to those who deserve it, but if you want to kill them, do it!, morally or physically, because the main doctrine is "do what you want".

- It falls in the category of "public Satanism", with a symbolic Satan... but in the rites, "a nude woman" is the altar.

In the prayers, Satan is invoked and honored, and Jesus Christ is cursed... and that's not just a symbol!... 19 prayers are recited in "enochian language", a kind of old Arabic , and some of them end with this English translation: "Be friendly unto me, for I am the same!- the true worshiper of the highest and ineffable King of Hell".


Is that is not about adoring the Devil then I do not know what is.