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    this thread had a great turn out..... all my threads do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniac
    this thread had a great turn out..... all my threads do.
    Yes, lots of posts .. but no one really wants to the discuss the original topic in depth. They just think they know what they are talking about, but have no scientific background to explain their beliefs. In other words, pretty much everyone that believes in the Big Bang is basing their belief entirely on faith in other men's words and books, rather than scientific facts - the exact same thing they are bashing other's on. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert
    Yes, lots of posts .. but no one really wants to the discuss the original topic in depth. They just think they know what they are talking about, but have no scientific background to explain their beliefs. In other words, pretty much everyone that believes in the Big Bang is basing their belief entirely on faith in other men's words and books, rather than scientific facts - the exact same thing they are bashing other's on. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
    ok..... facts this facts that... check my first post dude... i was just asking who believes in it and who doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert
    Yes, lots of posts .. but no one really wants to the discuss the original topic in depth. They just think they know what they are talking about, but have no scientific background to explain their beliefs. In other words, pretty much everyone that believes in the Big Bang is basing their belief entirely on faith in other men's words and books, rather than scientific facts - the exact same thing they are bashing other's on. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
    Its working both ways

    yet these christians arent supposed to be hypocritical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    Its working both ways

    yet these christians arent supposed to be hypocritical
    The thing is, in this particular thread, I have not talked of discussions of God, evolution, creationism, or any other topic. I have simply asked that if someone believes in the Big Bang Theory, to explain why they believe it and to back it up with scientific facts - and be prepared to answer some very big questions. I have even given a list so that they can be prepared to defend their belief in the Big Bang.

    Other than you, I have very little hope that anyone can actually defend their beliefs with facts.

    Basically, I don't see anyone on this thread that can say they believe in the Big Bang except on the basis of faith in men's words and books. Which is very hypocritical when the same people call people who do that complete religious fanatical idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert
    The thing is, in this particular thread, I have not talked of discussions of God, evolution, creationism, or any other topic. I have simply asked that if someone believes in the Big Bang Theory, to explain why they believe it and to back it up with scientific facts - and be prepared to answer some very big questions. I have even given a list so that they can be prepared to defend their belief in the Big Bang.

    Other than you, I have very little hope that anyone can actually defend their beliefs with facts.

    Basically, I don't see anyone on this thread that can say they believe in the Big Bang except on the basis of faith in men's words and books. Which is very hypocritical when the same people call people who do that complete religious fanatical idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert
    The thing is, in this particular thread, I have not talked of discussions of God, evolution, creationism, or any other topic. I have simply asked that if someone believes in the Big Bang Theory, to explain why they believe it and to back it up with scientific facts - and be prepared to answer some very big questions. I have even given a list so that they can be prepared to defend their belief in the Big Bang.

    Other than you, I have very little hope that anyone can actually defend their beliefs with facts.

    Basically, I don't see anyone on this thread that can say they believe in the Big Bang except on the basis of faith in men's words and books. Which is very hypocritical when the same people call people who do that complete religious fanatical idiots.
    Neither the big bang theory, or God creating the universe can be proven. You can choose to belive in creationism, you can belive in the big bang theory, or you can choose to remain indifferent until there actual facts that prove how the universe was created.

    I personally believe(or have faith in scientists) that the big bang theory is the best answer we can come up with for the time being. That is my personal belief and I have "faith" in the big bang theory but since it is not proven I can accept the fact that I don't know how the universe was created.

    I DO NOT believe in god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specvee
    Neither the big bang theory, or God creating the universe can be proven. You can choose to belive in creationism, you can belive in the big bang theory, or you can choose to remain indifferent until there actual facts that prove how the universe was created.

    I personally believe(or have faith in scientists) that the big bang theory is the best answer we can come up with for the time being. That is my personal belief and I have "faith" in the big bang theory but since it is not proven I can accept the fact that I don't know how the universe was created.

    I DO NOT believe in god.
    You at least are saying that you take it on faith. That is commendable. I would suggest you do some research though about it before blindly believing it.

    Do you truely know the reason why you choose to believe in something that is supposed to be based on fact rather than something that is supposed to be based on faith? That's a rhethorical question, BTW. Just giving you some food for thought.
    Personally, I can give more scientific arguments against the possibility of the Big Bang happening than I can for it. Mathematics and physics does not work in the Big Bang's favor. It is a great piece of work for a science fiction writing however - almost to a religious level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert
    You at least are saying that you take it on faith. That is commendable. I would suggest you do some research though about it before blindly believing it.

    Do you truely know the reason why you choose to believe in something that is supposed to be based on fact rather than something that is supposed to be based on faith? That's a rhethorical question, BTW. Just giving you some food for thought.
    Personally, I can give more scientific arguments against the possibility of the Big Bang happening than I can for it. Mathematics and physics does not work in the Big Bang's favor. It is a great piece of work for a science fiction writing however - almost to a religious level.

    Like I said in my previous post, I accept the fact that i do not know how the universe was created. I do not believe completely in the big bang theory, I believe in evolution and survival of the fittest...but the origins of the universe are still a mystery.

    I agree that it is a large leap of faith, but atleast the scientist admit it is only a THEORY. I DO NOT believe in blindly putting all my faith into a being that i dont know exists either. I believe that religion goes hand in hand with civilization. It is in excellent scripture to outline proper morals for a civilized community, but thats as far as i believe in it. I think it holds no weight when it comes to explaining how the universe was created.

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