The Big Bang Theory

[Hulud]

evolution has its flaws as well

the term GOD has the biggest flaws of all

i will elaborate later, i gotta head off to work, time to sell me some DRUGS

[Lucky DAWG]

the term GOD has the biggest flaws of all

i will elaborate later, i gotta head off to work, time to sell me some DRUGS

its supposed to thats the point
i don't understand what people don't understand about that, its called faith for the 100th time

science is supposed to be factual and 100% flawless.
its by nature of the definition supposed to be like that

[Maniaç]

haha damn! moved twice!

[Maniaç]

I love this thread...... it really shows who knows and who doesn't know his stuff on this subject

[Spectic Tank]

its supposed to thats the point
i don't understand what people don't understand about that, its called faith for the 100th time

science is supposed to be factual and 100% flawless.
its by nature of the definition supposed to be like that

Not exactly, for scientists their theories have to be proven before they become scientific fact. That's why there is a Big Bang THEORY...it hasn't been completely proven yet.

Faith...yea we understand what faith is for the 100th time, and it's still seems like bs to me.

U don't have any faith in science, but u have faith in some imaginary being?

[Maniaç]

Not exactly, for scientists their theories have to be proven before they become scientific fact. That's why there is a Big Bang THEORY...it hasn't been completely proven yet.

Faith...yea we understand what faith is for the 100th time, and it's still seems like bs to me.

U don't have any faith in science, but u have faith in some imaginary being?

Very nice.......

Faith.... i think.... is just a big thing that has been going on for a very long time.. but in the end of the day is just a bunch of bullshit! why.... cause storys that are said in it just doesn't make any since...
unlike science.... it has facts and theorys... to atleast get us going in the right direction. not like faith that just leaves us with more questions

[C22H19N3O4]

science is supposed to be factual and 100% flawless.
its by nature of the definition supposed to be like that

I'd like to know which school you attended. If you actually learned that in school I'd like to slap your instructor.

Science thrives on error. Science is falsifiable and testable. I find it amusing that some of you want to discuss "science" but don't know the true definition of theory or law. You want scientists to explain billions of years of evolution in a nice compact textbook?

I'm sure some of you have picked up on this, but what is the real discussion here? The topic jumps from evolution to abiogenesis. Please make up your mind.

[Maniaç]

I'd like to know which school you attended. If you actually learned that in school I'd like to slap your instructor.

Science thrives on error. Science is falsifiable and testable. I find it amusing that some of you want to discuss "science" but don't know the true definition of theory or law. You want scientists to explain billions of years of evolution in a nice compact textbook?

I'm sure some of you have picked up on this, but what is the real discussion here? The topic jumps from evolution to abiogenesis. Please make up your mind.

I started this thread and don't really care where it goes.
Evolution/Abiogenesis..... who cares.. .we're not talking shit so it doesn't matter.
this is my first thread we're there's no shit talking on it.

[C22H19N3O4]

I started this thread and don't really care where it goes.
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That's obvious. Why start a thread that's beyond your scope? I guess you learned something new in school yesterday. Try searching for previous religious threads.

[Maniaç]

That's obvious. Why start a thread that's beyond your scope? I guess you learned something new in school yesterday. Try searching for previous religious threads.

ok.... its not that dude.. people wanted to change it.. thats fine.. i got out all the things i wanted to.. they didn't so kept it going.
im not to bright when it come to religon.. which i don't care

You keep on at it if you want.. im done here

[C22H19N3O4]

ok.... its not that dude.. people wanted to change it.. thats fine.. i got out all the things i wanted to.. they didn't so kept it going.
im not to bright when it come to religon.. which i don't care

You keep on at it if you want.. im done here

It's not that serious.

[{X}Echo419]

Not exactly, for scientists their theories have to be proven before they become scientific fact. That's why there is a Big Bang THEORY...it hasn't been completely proven yet.

Faith...yea we understand what faith is for the 100th time, and it's still seems like bs to me.

U don't have any faith in science, but u have faith in some imaginary being?

I have more faith in a "God" than some nerd(human) that's been studying "Theories".

I'm only going to say this 1 more time. If you think "religon" contradicts itself and thus shouldn't be taken seriously how can you take something like "The Big Bang Theory" seriously?

this is a pointless debate.

[NUGZ]

who fuckin cares, we are here and everyday we are ruining how ever it got here!

[Spectic Tank]

I have more faith in a "God" than some nerd(human) that's been studying "Theories".

I'm only going to say this 1 more time. If you think "religon" contradicts itself and thus shouldn't be taken seriously how can you take something like "The Big Bang Theory" seriously?

this is a pointless debate.

Atleast you know humans are real...

[{X}Echo419]

Atleast you know humans are real...

(let me finish for you).....stupid.

[Lucky DAWG]

I'd like to know which school you attended. If you actually learned that in school I'd like to slap your instructor.

Science thrives on error. Science is falsifiable and testable. I find it amusing that some of you want to discuss "science" but don't know the true definition of theory or law. You want scientists to explain billions of years of evolution in a nice compact textbook?

I'm sure some of you have picked up on this, but what is the real discussion here? The topic jumps from evolution to abiogenesis. Please make up your mind.

it isn't a scientific law until it has been tested over and over and has found to have no flaws in it. and no i don't need it in one textbook, there is multiple books that you can read and understand as to how the world works. no matter how much you study you will never come to the conclusion as how the universe is made leaving religion to be the one underlying thing that you can not break down for being false.

so congwadufuckulations on that one.

and who said i didn't have faith in science specvee, there is more meaning to faith then simply the fact that i believe in god.

i have faith in my family
i have faith in my friends
i have faith in myself

i have faith that there is good in everybody, so since when did faith become bullshit to you?

[Spectic Tank]

(let me finish for you).....stupid.

So...you're calling yourself stupid?

[Lucky DAWG]

So...you're calling yourself stupid?

we are dumb, we let greed and pride overtake us and thats why there are different countries, competition, and wars.

its our nature

[Spectic Tank]

it isn't a scientific law until it has been tested over and over and has found to have no flaws in it. and no i don't need it in one textbook, there is multiple books that you can read and understand as to how the world works. no matter how much you study you will never come to the conclusion as how the universe is made leaving religion to be the one underlying thing that you can not break down for being false.

so congwadufuckulations on that one.

and who said i didn't have faith in science specvee, there is more meaning to faith then simply the fact that i believe in god.

i have faith in my family
i have faith in my friends
i have faith in myself

i have faith that there is good in everybody, so since when did faith become bullshit to you?

Faith in a fictional being has always been bullshit to me. I believe in my self and the fact that I decide my own destiny according to how I live my life. I also have faith in my family and friends because they are REAL people who actually effect my life.

[Spectic Tank]

we are dumb, we let greed and pride overtake us and thats why there are different countries, competition, and wars.

its our nature

You just made huge generalization...maybe that's just your nature.

[Lucky DAWG]

Faith in a fictional being has always been bullshit to me. I believe in my self and the fact that I decide my own destiny according to how I live my life. I also have faith in my family and friends because they are REAL people who actually effect my life.

so whats your purpose then?
where are you going when you die?

if you have no faith then i want to know what goes through your head when you think about those questions

[Lucky DAWG]

You just made huge generalization...maybe that's just your nature.

no its a common known fact...
nice attempt at a jab though

[Spectic Tank]

so whats your purpose then?
where are you going when you die?

if you have no faith then i want to know what goes through your head when you think about those questions

My pourpose is the same as any other creatures purpose, to survive and reproduce. It's every animal/creatures purpose. These are "instincts" that we are born with.

Where do I think I'm going when I die...in the ground just like you. My mind is dead my body is dead...I will be worm food.

[Lucky DAWG]

My pourpose is the same as any other creatures purpose, to survive and reproduce. It's every animal/creatures purpose. These are "instincts" that we are born with.

Where do I think I'm going when I die...in the ground just like you. My mind is dead my body is dead...I will be worm food.

so why be nice to people?

why don't you just go out and murder your enemies if no one is going to find out about it.

whats stopping you
shit go ahead and start selling drugs and create a gang
you'll make more money that way and live a better life until they bring you down, you got nothing to lose

[Spectic Tank]

no its a common known fact...
nice attempt at a jab though

That's good evidence right there! You made a general statement about every one on the earth...it's not common fact, it's your opinion.

[Spectic Tank]

so why be nice to people?

why don't you just go out and murder your enemies if no one is going to find out about it.

whats stopping you
shit go ahead and start selling drugs and create a gang
you'll make more money that way and live a better life until they bring you down, you got nothing to lose

Like I said my goal is to survive. If I started doing those things you mentioned I wouldn't get very far. That's why I live by society's rule's...I don't need a book to tell me whats right and wrong.

[Lucky DAWG]

That's good evidence right there! You made a general statement about every one on the earth...it's not common fact, it's your opinion.

human nature is to do whats best for you and compete and fuck others over so that you can reach the top of the food chain whether in darwinism or social darwinism.

isn't that what your beliefs say???

the people that my statement doesn't apply to are generally ones that have some kind of faith in a greater being; otherwise whats the point, when you die you won't have to deal with the consequences of your negative actions.

you're confusing me
don't trip over your own ideology

[Lucky DAWG]

Like I said my goal is to survive. If I started doing those things you mentioned I wouldn't get very far. That's why I live by society's rule's...I don't need a book to tell me whats right and wrong.

society's come and go

what is it you learn from then if not books?
i guess what i say doesn't apply to you then, because apparently you were born with this knowledge and you don't learn from outside sources. and don't say older people because where do you think they learned it from, it all comes back to books.

you go by what soceity tells you? what if you were raised in a remote island where cannibalism was practiced. would it make it right? majority rules makes people more comfortable and dictates order, it has nothing to do with what is the right thing

[Spectic Tank]

human nature is to do whats best for you and compete and fuck others over so that you can reach the top of the food chain whether in darwinism or social darwinism.

isn't that what your beliefs say???

the people that my statement doesn't apply to are generally ones that have some kind of faith in a greater being; otherwise whats the point, when you die you won't have to deal with the consequences of your negative actions.

you're confusing me
don't trip over your own ideology

I never stated my beliefs in this thread...the only thing I said was that I believe in the big bang theory over creationism. you keep coming up with these ignorant generalizations about the human nature(that's why your confused). Just because people don't believ in the bible it automatically means that we fuck over other people to get to the top of the food chain? I don't need a bible to tell me what I think is right or wrong...I make those decisions for myslef. Just because I dont think that I will go to hell if I "sin" doesn't mean I feel the right to go on a killing spree.

[Spectic Tank]

society's come and go

what is it you learn from then if not books?
i guess what i say doesn't apply to you then, because apparently you were born with this knowledge and you don't learn from outside sources. and don't say older people because where do you think they learned it from, it all comes back to books.

you go by what soceity tells you? what if you were raised in a remote island where cannibalism was practiced. would it make it right? majority rules makes people more comfortable and dictates order, it has nothing to do with what is the right thing

Of course I learn from books, but not ones titled "the bible". I also learn from my own personal experiences. I don't rob people because I wouldn't want anyone to rob me. I dont need the bible to tell me im going to hell just to keep me from robbing someone. Im able to make my own thought and my own ideas...something you dont seem to do much of.

Obviously if i grew up where cannibalism was practiced i would think it was ok...I don't see where you are going with this argument

[Lucky DAWG]

I never stated my beliefs in this thread...the only thing I said was that I believe in the big bang theory over creationism. you keep coming up with these ignorant generalizations about the human nature(that's why your confused). Just because people don't believ in the bible it automatically means that we fuck over other people to get to the top of the food chain? I don't need a bible to tell me what I think is right or wrong...I make those decisions for myslef. Just because I dont think that I will go to hell is I "sin" doesn't mean I feel the right to go on a killing spree.

a killing spree would denote killing people at random.

if competition is in our nature then the most natural thing that comes to mind is just to kill of the competition. why do we have emotions of compassion for someone else with no return, that makes no sense.

the bolded sentence makes no sense either, and sin isn't in your vocabulary if you don't believe in a god. right and wrong should be up to you and therefore there is no such thing as sin. what is the point of us "evolving" to humans if that is indeed what happened if we are to simply recreate and advance. thats what all of the other animals do, i don't see why there was a need to advance to our stage.

and i'm not talking about just the bible, i'm talking about any religion's text. it is a way for them to unite under a common cause and work together because even when everyone has different beliefs they will all conflict if we try to do things on our own and have billions of different religions.

the religion is not about the book... it is about feeling an honest connection to a higher being and feeling that you have a goal in this world and trying to make a positive change. if you don't realize that then you are beyond my efforts of trying to convince you otherwise.

it is honestly sad that you can think we are nothing but meat bags with no purpose but to have babies.
if i am in need of a favor, i would certaintly not want to rely on you as a friend to be there for me to help out

i'm done,
chase

[Spectic Tank]

a killing spree would denote killing people at random.

if competition is in our nature then the most natural thing that comes to mind is just to kill of the competition. why do we have emotions of compassion for someone else with no return, that makes no sense.

the bolded sentence makes no sense either, and sin isn't in your vocabulary if you don't believe in a god. right and wrong should be up to you and therefore there is no such thing as sin. what is the point of us "evolving" to humans if that is indeed what happened if we are to simply recreate and advance. thats what all of the other animals do, i don't see why there was a need to advance to our stage.

and i'm not talking about just the bible, i'm talking about any religion's text. it is a way for them to unite under a common cause and work together because even when everyone has different beliefs they will all conflict if we try to do things on our own and have billions of different religions.

the religion is not about the book... it is about feeling an honest connection to a higher being and feeling that you have a goal in this world and trying to make a positive change. if you don't realize that then you are beyond my efforts of trying to convince you otherwise.

it is honestly sad that you can think we are nothing but meat bags with no purpose but to have babies.
if i am in need of a favor, i would certaintly not want to rely on you as a friend to be there for me to help out

i'm done,
chase

Good...call ur sunday school teacher

[Lucky DAWG]

Good...call ur sunday school teacher

clever

too bad darwin is dead
looks like ur shit out of luck

[Maniaç]

this thread had a great turn out..... all my threads do.

[David88vert]

this thread had a great turn out..... all my threads do.

Yes, lots of posts .. but no one really wants to the discuss the original topic in depth. They just think they know what they are talking about, but have no scientific background to explain their beliefs. In other words, pretty much everyone that believes in the Big Bang is basing their belief entirely on faith in other men's words and books, rather than scientific facts - the exact same thing they are bashing other's on. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

[Maniaç]

Yes, lots of posts .. but no one really wants to the discuss the original topic in depth. They just think they know what they are talking about, but have no scientific background to explain their beliefs. In other words, pretty much everyone that believes in the Big Bang is basing their belief entirely on faith in other men's words and books, rather than scientific facts - the exact same thing they are bashing other's on. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

ok..... facts this facts that... check my first post dude... i was just asking who believes in it and who doesn't.

[ARH1192]

I got a question I'd like answered.

Who has seen someone split the sea?

and

Who has seen evolution in plants/animals?

[nolaRyder]

I got a question I'd like answered.

Who has seen someone split the sea?

and

Who has seen evolution in plants/animals?

whats the point??? thats like asking, "who has seen a dinosaur?"

[ARH1192]

not the same at all

[Hulud]

its supposed to thats the point
i don't understand what people don't understand about that, its called faith for the 100th time

how is faith flawed?

you put your faith in something because you believe whole heartedly in it

science is supposed to be factual and 100% flawless.
its by nature of the definition supposed to be like that

id like to know where the fuck you get your definitions from

how is science supposed to be FACT and 100% flawless when there are things like the big bang called THEORIES

heres the def of a theory

a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.


and heres a little definition of science for ya

The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.


but i digress

the term god has the biggest flaws, because:

A) How many religions have a god? Isnt there just one god to you? So how can that be?

B) He doesnt answer your prayers, its just the natural course of things happening.

C) If "your" god is the right one that would mean that like 75% of the worlds population is going to your hell, some god huh?

D) The term god is used for anything that people cant explain, just like how you people are ragging on others for their belief in the big bang, its just as absurd for you all to believe some invisible camo guy did the same.

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So its rather funny to see you all argue about something like the bigbang when theres no way to prove it at all as of yet. Plus the fact that you people who believe in this god are so quick to judge and say the big bang is crap yet you follow blindly in believing in some god that you cant prove exists either.

I mean your only proof is you believe, yet there are plenty of others who feel the exact opposite as you. So how do you think your right? Oh yea i remember you have faith. Just like people have faith in football teams that lose, ill take my chances with being agnostic.