622whp UBERDATA tuned LSVTEC *MSPi/Turbo Dave Top Mount Manifold*

[BABY J]

ill see 800+wph on stock gsr cams/camgears. if he thinks he will have that much trouble on b16 cams then he shouldve got some gsr or ctr/itr cams at least.

NOW you are talking about cams/camgears when your orig argument was the head. Are you SERIOUS or do you just want to hear yourself talk? I really wanted to address the issue of the stock head w/ you which is why I said:

"Who spins 600+ WHP pulls w/ stock retainers and valves?? Even if you were gonna pull to head to freshen then up w/ OEM parts, common sense would kick in and most tuners would opt for some Supertechs (which in my opinion are at the top of the game right now) or something other than OEM, and some aftermarket springs/retainers."

I only threw in the cam/cam-gear comment b/c you mentioned it, and yes I even agreed w/ you when I said who REALLY cares about cam gears... if cam gears is keeping you from 800 wheel then you got more probs than cam gears. But I am really wondering what your big gripe/concern point is? It seems you just wanna keep some sh*t up, or just are here for the sake of arguing. What's the deal? This is not a rhetorical question, answer it! Not for the sake of fighting I am just following the thread and am trying to figure out your angle, that's all. Also NE1 who has seen my posts knows I am not one for this internet gayness of back and forth crap. And I am not knocking your project that's in progress, but this IS the net, and every1 I know "is getting" n20 and "is getting" a turbo and "is building" this and that. That's kool, just b/c I have 2 finished projects doesn't mean I was never at the "is building" stage... hell in fact I am building a 3rd as we speak. But unless you're posting some pics, or backing up your claims, or offering some solid tech/tuning advice, or at LEAST NOT being a hater on other people's projects then seriously you are just jacking the thread. EVERY1 knows there are hotter OEM cams than stock B16 cams, EVERY1 knows that Uber has limitiations (EVERY aftermarket box does by the way... pick your poison), EVERY1 knows that there are stronger B series' out there than 622 wheel. So what is your deal Bro?

Cams take 30 min to swap out, he didnt have the extra money to pick up ITR cams, so he opted to dyno with what he had.

Fact is he made 622whp with a 3rd gear pull. if his 4th gear pull held, clearly, you can see it would have made 650ish.

We will redyno his VERY soon with the new cams. hes still in the top 5 in the state at this point IMO.

Mike you do not have to "back up" spoolins progress man. Seriously, it is a DAMN good start, and like he says he is still dialing in the tune and the hard parts. It's a work in progress. I think most can agree that he's not gonna run 9:90s as it sits, but he is not done wrenching and tuning. Don't rush it, you have nothing to prove here... not on the net NEway. That time will come later. My .02