come on man trading shit thats worth money is still spending money and you have yet to answer any of my questions mr sarcastic do you get your finger nails dirty or are you buying a bunch of shit that somebody else has hoping to make the same power they do by bolting them together im just trying to see if you got what it takes to build a 270 motor car and nas far as i can see since you keep dodging questions is your full of shit. I bet for every motor on here that gets built there is 15 more people that spent there 10 thousand dollar credit card bought a bunch of nice shit took pictures of it bragged about making 270 hp and parted it off 6 months later cause they dont have a clue what there doing and not enough money to finish PAYING SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. Now your gonna say owe i got the money to pay to finish my car but that doesnt answer the question are you building it yourself or do you have a reputable shop doing it . Holding up nice cams means nothing to me man the cams in my car are 6 years old came out of a customers car that decided to go with pro2 i mean if nyou wanna get down to swapping i have 800 dollars in my motor lol ni almost have as much in getting it tunned as building it but we are talking about the average joe that has to purchase everything and k series are exspensive. You cant get on here and say hey man my grandma wrtecked her rsx gave me the motor and i built it you just got to be patient and you can build one for cheap lol come on get real. Is that your car in your sig cause about three pages ago a guy said something about you putting your motor in and taking it back out to build it and you said no you building it firts so if thats not even your car in your sig then thats just funny as shit man and explains everything . Your buddys might think since you have a bunch of high priced shit laying around that your king of the streets but not here and my offer stands 4000 build two motors see what they do i got a few hatch bodies ill let you use one so we can keep the weight the same what you wanna do you get your deals and i get mine?