You must have missed my 800 awhp Evo. http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?i...v=351056655524Originally Posted by 05IONREDLINE
You must have missed my 800 awhp Evo. http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?i...v=351056655524
High HP Corvette, never seen that before :P
Why don't y'all twin turbo my SC400? Huh, huh huh!!
Honestly, I don't care what has been done beforeThat's not the issue. We laid out the criteria in the op. It mentioned nothing about being exclusively original. I keel you!
I voted C6 Z06!!! Hell you guys could have one of the badest around. Twin turbo set up with FMIC, a sick paint job and some Nasty shoes on it. Plus there are a lot of guys with these that think they are untouchable!!!! Just sayin.
Work in progressneed slicks!
voted R35. would like to see you guys work with a newer platform. would also like to see you guys test it on an independent dyno or at the 1/4 mile track.
LOL. I have to laugh at the independent dyno part. Seems to imply to me that we fix our numbers somehow.voted R35. would like to see you guys work with a newer platform. would also like to see you guys test it on an independent dyno or at the 1/4 mile track.
Either way, all of our cars have seen the 1/4 mile track, so that is nothing new...you can go ahead and assume you will see our next car there, too. As far as the independent dyno, maybe not. Too much of a hassle when we have one at our own shop, but you never know.
guilty conscience?LOL. I have to laugh at the independent dyno part. Seems to imply to me that we fix our numbers somehow.
Either way, all of our cars have seen the 1/4 mile track, so that is nothing new...you can go ahead and assume you will see our next car there, too. As far as the independent dyno, maybe not. Too much of a hassle when we have one at our own shop, but you never know.
i always recommend an independent dyno test when claiming whp numbers solely due to the fact that numbers can be fudged and having similar numbers on different dynamometers lends credence to the vendor claims.
the 2j sc project must be inspired by my shell u have sitting around
I agree for the most part (aside from th fact that you will most likely get a different number from dyno to dyno regardless), but like you said, the track is the best test of hp #'s, and like I said, all of our cars have seen the track at least once—except for my drift car.guilty conscience?
i always recommend an independent dyno test when claiming whp numbers solely due to the fact that numbers can be fudged and having similar numbers on different dynamometers lends credence to the vendor claims.
Girls can't drive - much less drift.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
it's a given that you will get different numbers from dyno to dyno... depending on whether or not one is load based (mustang dyno, dyno-dynamics) vs. inertia based (dynojet) but with proper calibration and strapping the number should be very similar...within reason.
i voted R35 because it is a relatively new platform where typical power-adders do not work as planned... depending upon what your whp goals are, you may find yourself struggling and inept...
if you can prove yourself with this new technology, then you are on top of your game...
The r35 is too much price point to hack on. An r35 needs wheels, suspension, audio and a boost controller IMO. Leave it as it sits for as long as the warranty lasts. You can save money by choosing a diff platform and ALSO outperform the r35 easily at a fraction of the pricepoint.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
i completely disagree. $80k is a great price point to work on. much less than its supercar counterparts. and why would an R35 need a boost controller? absolutely no need unless you are utilizing aftermarket actuators and wanting 600+whp... btw, changing boost levels on the car voids the warranty...so, that sort of kills leaving the warranty intact until it's over...
one other thought, for under $4k you can make the R35 a low 10 second car even though it's not even designed for the straight track...
So, like I said. We are getting the Vette. Why? Because I am spoiled and that's what I want. If mama ain't happy, no one is happy :P
sorry, i didn't go that far back in the thread... didn't know you guys had picked a candidate already... but, good choice! simple bolt ons make a lot of power... no need for technical or tuning know-how to make a monster!
granted the challenge that the R35 presents isn't for everyone.
It's not the challenge. It's the $80k at this point (thats what customer cars are for).sorry, i didn't go that far back in the thread... didn't know you guys had picked a candidate already... but, good choice! simple bolt ons make a lot of power... no need for technical or tuning know-how to make a monster!
granted the challenge that the R35 presents isn't for everyone.
Last edited by Tracy; 12-13-2009 at 05:51 PM.
Dibs on first ride along!
gotcha. so, the learning curve comes at the customer's expense and not the shop's? hmmm...not sure if i would want to go down that road as a client.It's not the challenge. It's the $80k at this point (thats what customer cars are for).
keep in mind that a used 09 GT-R can be had for roughly the same cost as a good Z06. i've seen them go for a low as 65k.
btw, have you guys done any GT-R builds yet?
I have to tell ya, I'm getting the feeling that you are trying to be a little snide (with all but your first post in this thread)....but I am going to hope that you aren't and continue on as if you weren't. You're new to this site and I have no idea what you know about us, but if you are really interested, you can feel free to check out our website www.batlground.com or stop by on our Toys for Tots dyno day coming up on Dec. 19th. details in my sig.gotcha. so, the learning curve comes at the customer's expense and not the shop's? hmmm...not sure if i would want to go down that road as a client.
keep in mind that a used 09 GT-R can be had for roughly the same cost as a good Z06. i've seen them go for a low as 65k.
btw, have you guys done any GT-R builds yet?
1st let's say that, unfortunately, we cannot own every single car that we are capable of working on. I wish we had it like that—but to answer your question, no the "learning curve" does not come at the customers expense. Just the car. That's what I was getting at. Our learning curve comes at our own expense in most cases. That being said, there are plenty of times where the customer will pay for R&D for a crazy project and that is always discussed with them and agreed upon upfront. We are pretty transparent and have no problem admitting when we haven't done something before. Additionally, just because we haven't done it, doesn't mean we can't. That has been proved on more than one occasion.
2nd, an '06 Z06 (the first year of the new body style) has been going for around $40-48k+, not $65k (That is as of the last time I checked around a few weeks ago). We happen to be getting an '07 for $40k because one of our friends can't afford his payments anymore. Lucky me.
3rd, we have not had the opportunity to work on an R35 yet.
Thanks for your interest and input.
Last edited by Tracy; 12-13-2009 at 07:58 PM.
wow. way too defensive. i was being facetious; not desparaging.
i did check out your site. there was little to no information as all pages basically state to check back later... at least, this is what i found with the 'projects' page where one would expect to learn more about the competency and prior builds of a tuning shop.
thank you for the invitation to the Toys for Tots Dyno Day. if weather permits, i may very well take you up on the invitation. seems it's for a good cause.
on a side note, your website is incompatible with IE8... not sure if you were aware and wanted to be helpful.
I am not trying to be defensive, but the internet doesn't lend itself to tone of voice and sarcasm and I don't know you like that. Personally, I try to be clear that I am joking with people I don't know on the internet for that reason.wow. way too defensive. i was being facetious; not desparaging.
i did check out your site. there was little to no information as all pages basically state to check back later... at least, this is what i found with the 'projects' page where one would expect to learn more about the competency and prior builds of a tuning shop.
thank you for the invitation to the Toys for Tots Dyno Day. if weather permits, i may very well take you up on the invitation. seems it's for a good cause.
on a side note, your website is incompatible with IE8... not sure if you were aware and wanted to be helpful.
Thanks for the info. as far as the IE8 is concerned. I am currently back in school for advertising and I just redid our website about 2 months ago. I am very much a noob at designing sites and have to work on it in between classes and TV shows we have been filming non-stop since. I am having trouble with the flash image viewer I created to embed on the projects page (the only unfinished page. Murphy's Law). You can feel free to check out the gallery http://batlground.com/gallery/ where you can find a lot of projects from our old site. I haven't updated the gallery in about 2 years because I haven't worked at the shop daily in that time span, but I am slowly working on getting it all back up to par. You can also check out the blog for some of our recent updates. My apologies for referring you to an unfinished site.
maybe you should try working in something like Joomla. much easier medium to work in as a self-proclaimed 'noob', but certainly challenging enough to give you great experience with site development.
edit - oh, and in our future communication i will make certain to rely less on emoticons to convey my tone and more on staunch text.
I've looked into that actually. I designed it as my web design class project. Have to design and code from scratch for that. Figured I might as well make it a project I could use for the shop.maybe you should try working in something like Joomla. much easier medium to work in as a self-proclaimed 'noob', but certainly challenging enough to give you great experience with site development.
edit - oh, and in our future communication i will make certain to rely less on emoticons to convey my tone and more on staunch text.
To me, acan be a way to end a smart ass/snide remark, but now that we know you are just a smart ass as in ha ha, I definitely appreciate that and we can move along
I'm sure you'll find that I'm not as stiff as these last few post may let on. In fact, butt secks and bewbs are amongst some of my favorite topics
not a bad idea, but as you can see, it's difficult to build a website from scratch code...especially when the site will be an ongoing project. though, i will say you didn't do too shabby of a job.I've looked into that actually. I designed it as my web design class project. Have to design and code from scratch for that. Figured I might as well make it a project I could use for the shop.
To me, a
hmmm...are butt secks and bewbs a common topic on IA? not that i am opposed to bewbs or...*ahem* anal lovin'...but, i prefer to have a more mature conversations. and i'm more of a gentleman than that. those topics are best reserved for at least our third encounter.
btw, you do know the stigma of corvette drivers, no? is it mid-life crisis time for Ms. Tracy?
I love geeks! My man is an engineering grad from GA Tech. See? We might just get a long after all. :idb:not a bad idea, but as you can see, it's difficult to build a website from scratch code...especially when the site will be an ongoing project. though, i will say you didn't do too shabby of a job.
hmmm...are butt secks and bewbs a common topic on IA? not that i am opposed to bewbs or...*ahem* anal lovin'...but, i prefer to have a more mature conversations. and i'm more of a gentleman than that. those topics are best reserved for at least our third encounter.
btw, you do know the stigma of corvette drivers, no? is it mid-life crisis time for Ms. Tracy?
And yes, those 2 topics are rampant on IA. Might I suggest you never venture to the Whorehouse if you are one for mature conversations!!! As far as the mid-life crisis goes, it could be true, but let's break it down—currently the average life expectancy is 81 (iirc) and if you are 40 or younger it goes up to around 100. That would leave me 10 maybe even 20 years until I am actually at mid-life. That's what I tell myself anyways—that and mid-life crisis are only for men
Nice to meet ya. Hope to see ya around sometime.
P.S. The GTR looks like a RX-8 and 350Z bumped uglies(that's a joke since emoticons don't work all that well apparently).
ok. so, maybe it's your pre-mid-life crisis? or maybe you just want the "old man with trophy girl" stigma attached to you for some ungodly reason? i don't know you well enough...yet...to answer that question. but, i am on the case!I love geeks! My man is an engineering grad from GA Tech. See? We might just get a long after all. :idb:
And yes, those 2 topics are rampant on IA. Might I suggest you never venture to the Whorehouse if you are one for mature conversations!!! As far as the mid-life crisis goes, it could be true, but let's break it down—currently the average life expectancy is 81 (iirc) and if you are 40 or younger it goes up to around 100. That would leave me 10 maybe even 20 years until I am actually at mid-life. That's what I tell myself anyways—that and mid-life crisis are only for men
Nice to meet ya. Hope to see ya around sometime.
P.S. The GTR looks like a RX-8 and 350Z bumped uglies
about that...i think the GT-R looks like an EVO X and a corvette had a bastard child.. see how subjective opinions are?
Windows guy huh? Makes sense now.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
work. unix for play. (and ub3r l33t h@x0r!n 5k33lz)Windows guy huh? Makes sense now.
I'm A UNIX Systems Engineer V (since 1997). UNIX for work - Windows for play. LOL
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
*high five*
you're the anti-me.
LOL
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
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6 speed sc400 turbo?
well i voted for the is-f gotta keep it in the lex fam.
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I say find yourself a 2.8 Turbo V6 Saab to tune. Hear me out. This would be mostly to tune the engine and not really the car. These engines are capable of a lot of power and now GM has basically used that Saab knowledge to put this engine in all it's top of the line models. The new Buick Regal GS is going to get this engine.
The turbo V6 is going to be the next performance based engine because it's a small package and generally gets better gas mileage than a V8 and simple things like adjusting boost can provide different power levels. In stock form these engines make 250hp/258lb.-ft. and with a simple ECU tune they produce 320hp/400lb-ft. and that's with swapping zero parts, not even spark plugs. GM is already using this engine in the Opel Insignia OPC and in stock form it's making 325hp/295lb.-ft. With a compressor wheel upgrade and spark plugs they make about 390hp. Just imagine what you can get out of the thing if you put a larger turbo in, a larger downpipe, and,ore efficient intercooler.
EDIT: I know you guys hate FWD and they are also available in AWD format with the newest Haldex system with an eLSD.
So, I voted you do a GTR.
Then I realized, about 10 minutes into doing ANYTHING to that car you'll be calling Forged and asking how its done.
BWAHHAHAHAHA.
Good luck.
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