And you apparently missed the part in my reply to JITB that said we are not talking stock cars here. Mainly because there is no reason to bash a stock civic. If someone put a turboback exhaust on the WRX and had it tuned it can see a 50 whp gain easily. But I am not here to defend the WRX. I am saying that riced out civics suck and there is nothing anyone can say to me to think otherwise, especially in a way where I have to decipher where periods have to be placed.Originally Posted by green91