Quote Originally Posted by atlsrt44
all the same at the flywheel maybe but definately not at the wheels. Stock srt4s dyno higher than 230.

yea yea, we know that... we dont want to get into that... But you know out of all, the wrx prob has the most drivetrain loss of all..


But im not defending hondas, iver never owned one. But, im the type that has a problem with the way the tuner thing has changed. I liked it better when it was people taking ****ty cars and making them into great cars. Now its more of buying a great car, and making it great? Not to say that we all dont want nice cars. But alot of cars dont impress me too much, not because of what it is. But just because it doesnt suprise me when a evo makes 700 hp on 40lbs of boost... i mean dam what motor wont make 700hp on 40lbs...lol. Just some cars im numb to their capabilities, and it doesnt interest me at all. And alot of people rather tell someone to not waste money on the car they want, rather than give props. I challenge anyone to go and research about a car that they hate or cant stand to see people put money into, and see if u dont find something interesting about it.