These damn debates always end up the same. For some reason, some BMW owners can't handle anyone saying anything negative about the "ultimate driving machine"...

#1. This debate wasn't even started nor did it ever mention the "M" series AT ALL. It was 335i vs IS350. THAT was it. How come the BMW nutswingers have to always rely on the ONLY bullet that noone can dispute, the "M"? Great, so the "M" is a badass car most of the time.....SO??? Is the 335i an "M"???? NOOOOOO. So why bring it up? Apples to 747's, way to go Einstein.

#2. How in the world can you slober all over yourself when you try to defend the already KNOWN prowess of an "M3" by saying you have to DRIVE one to understand it when you yourself have obviously NOT driven the car being discussed....the Lexus IS350??? Hello Kettle, my name is POT...

This argument is stupid. Of course an "M" anything is badass, damn it SHOULD be. It is after all the top of their respective line, right? If it wasn't, then BMW has no business being in the car world. The regular 3 series is NOT an "M". Never has been, never will be. It may be it's little brother or second cousin twice removed, but it ISN'T an "M". Argue with that.

I still stand by my one and only statement: It is not a fair comparo to pit an N/A car that is supposed to be in the same class against it's adversary which is FI. It just isn't even if the raw data numbers seem to used to justify it. An FI car will have inherent attributes that an N/A motor (of equal or lesser value ) can't have. Don't bring in monster domestic motors into it either. That's not what we're talking about here.

Indisputable data:

BEFORE the intro of the TWIN TURBO 335i, what was the 3 series non "M" BMW to the IS350??? Was it still the "ultimate driving machine"? It was underpowered and outclassed. Fast forward to 07 and now look.....what's the BIG difference???? TWIN TURBOS. How about we compare N/A to N/A in the exact same lines? How about a comparo between the 328 and the IS350? 70+ HP and 70+ TQ for the IS350. How do you think the BMW will compare then??? And that is with BMW's "new and improved and more powerful than ever" I6. N/A to N/A there is no comparo.

So just like I said, BMW nutswingers are bragging about how the 335i so much better performance wise than an IS350, yet it took TWIN TURBOS to do it.

I'll say it again for all the haters and nutswingers. The 335i looks to be an exceptional car. I've not drove one YET, but I'm sure I'll be happy when I finally do. I've driven the IS350 quite a bit. I'll be happy to compare them to each other. As a matter of fact, Lexus drive event is coming in October. Unlike other manufacturers, Lexus brings brand new factory COMPETITORS cars for everyone to compare side-by-side. I'm sure they'll bring the 335i then. I'll thrash the crap out of it and wager my opinion on it. Until then.... .....It took TWIN TURBOS to get the same numbers that an N/A motor got....you wanna swing off that, cool.