German Muscle vs. Japanese Hustle (335i vs IS350)

[Mike Lowrey]

Wouldn't you try to rid yourself of a constant pest, a copycat, a very annoying unwanted wannabe-friend that follows you around and tries to be like you?
That's what Lexus is to BMW. Sad and lame, but true.

Except that "lame" friend actually knows how to engineer a car that is not is the shop more than the owners driveway.

[d993s]

Except that "lame" friend actually knows how to engineer a car that is not is the shop more than the owners driveway.

And Americans are capable of building cars that get 200mpg while doing 10 second 1/4 mile times and lasting 100 years. Are they making them? Hell no! What would that do to the economy?
There's not much $ to be made with something that's "too reliable". Most cars these days are purposely built as a disposable money pit.

Just like each medical system across the world, no matter how good or bad it is......there's no possible further profit if a cure is found for a disease. That's why some diseases have been brought back from their "no risk" status. Ever heard of "the last case of such and such", etc, etc?

[Mike Lowrey]

And Americans are capable of building cars that get 200mpg while doing 10 second 1/4 mile times and lasting 100 years. Are they making them? Hell no! What would that do to the economy?
There's not much $ to be made with something that's "too reliable". Most cars these days are purposely built as a disposable money pit.

Just like each medical system across the world, no matter how good or bad it is......there's no possible further profit if a cure is found for a disease. That's why some diseases have been brought back from their "no risk" status. Ever heard of "the last case of such and such", etc, etc?

You are a dumbass. Cars are not designed to be in the shop more than in the owners hands. That is called poor quality. GTFO douche.

[d993s]

You are a dumbass. Cars are not designed to be in the shop more than in the owners hands. That is called poor quality. GTFO douche.

Go tell that to some of the Ferrari guys, or most other exotics!

You have got to be a complete idiot to NOT know that cars nowadays are purposely built to have more problems and require more expensive repairs. Why do most V6 and V8 engines have 4 oxygen sensors when they can make do with only 2??? Why do they still make engines with timing belts that require to be changed at 50-60k intervals?
Didn't you see what happened with Mercedes quality when it was under Chrysler influence? The HP went up and the quality went to shit. But guess what? Sales went up! Disposable Mercedes!
It's all about making more profit. Some are just more greedy than others.

[Mike Lowrey]

Go tell that to some of the Ferrari guys, or most other exotics!

You have got to be a complete idiot to NOT know that cars nowadays are purposely built to have more problems and require more expensive repairs. Why do most V6 and V8 engines have 4 oxygen sensors when they can make do with only 2???

You are joking right?! Go buy a brain retard. Why do they have 4 O2 sensors?! V6 and V8's have two exhaust banks. Each bank has an O2 sensor before and after the catalytic converter. The first one determines AFR, the second verifies the catalytic converter is functioning properly. Last time I checked, that equals 4 sensors!

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Didn't you see what happened with Mercedes quality when it was under Chrysler influence? The HP went up and the quality went to shit. But guess what? Sales went up! Disposable Mercedes!
It's all about making more profit. Some are just more greedy than others.

You are dumb. Leave while that is all we think about you.

[d993s]

You are joking right?! Go buy a brain retard. Why do they have 4 O2 sensors?! V6 and V8's have two exhaust banks. Each bank has an O2 sensor before and after the catalytic converter. The first one determines AFR, the second verifies the catalytic converter is functioning properly. Last time I checked, that equals 4 sensors!

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You are dumb. Leave while that is all we think about you.

WTF?????? You are beyond stupid. I know how they are made and how they work, but you fail to understand he point!!!
They CAN use a 4-into-1 on each side, then use a Y-pipe to connect them, then use the 1 O2 sensorbefore the cat, and 1 after. That's just one example. MORON!!!

You must drive one of those dual exhaust Civics with 4 or 8 tips.......unnecessary.

[Mike Lowrey]

WTF?????? You are beyond stupid. I know how they are made and how they work, but you fail to understand he point!!!
They CAN use a 4-into-1 on each side, then use a Y-pipe to connect them, then use the 1 O2 sensorbefore the cat, and 1 after. That's just one example. MORON!!!

You must drive one of those dual exhaust Civics with 4 or 8 tips.......unnecessary.

And you fail to look at the whole picture. A 4-1 header would take up alot of space at the rear of the engine (assuming front engine, RWD). That would require several possible changes that are unfavorable:

1. The engine may have to sit higher in the engine bay. This would hurt the center of gravity of the car and hinder handling.

2. The tunnel for the tranny, exhaust would have to be bigger. This would remove interior space.

3. There are also production costs to look at.

That is just a few items. Your items work OK when the engine is on the stand, but how about in the car. GTFO. You are not smart enough for this thread.