German Muscle vs. Japanese Hustle (335i vs IS350)

[DinanM3atl]

Look folks, you have one guy that SELLS German cars and parts and the other that OWNS a BMW.......why the hell does anyone think that either of them is going to be objective?

Like I said before, this is exactly what EVERY thread that remotely has BMW associated with it turns into. I wonder why that is????

If a car is not fast in a straight line, then it's not fast in a straight line. Don't look for excuses why it's not. It just is. Things in the rest of the non-BMW world work like that. You either fix it or move on, it's that simple. If you want to find that small window where YOUR particular car is just "awesome" and pitch a tent around that.....then don't complain when other people who don't choose to stick their head in the sand point out where your short comings are that you conviniently choose to gloss over. If you have a car that is good at only one thing, then it's a purpose built car....right? By definition, a purpose built car is only good at ONE maybe even TWO things. That means that if someone wants it to do THREE or FOUR things, it can't do it very well, right??? So all the complaining and whining in the world is not going to change that FACT. People want to try and re-invent the wheel when it's not necessary. Give credit where credit is due. Where it not for competition, many cars would still be carburated and all headliners would sag. No problem with having brand loyalty, unless that loyalty blinds you to give credit where credit is due.

Speaking of FACTS; Reliability is derived from NUMBERS. Numbers in any language still ADD up and SUBTRACT exactly the same. They are not subjective nor arbitrary. Just like above, they are what they are. Independent research shows what the REAL bottomline is when it comes to reliability between these two cars. The NUMBERS are there and they are CLEAR. BMW lovers can try to muddy up the water as much as they'd like, but unless 3rd grade MATH is trouble for you.....the NUMBERS don't lie. It doesn't matter if you're German or Japanese, 1 is one and 2 is two.

But it is not faster.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/26/t...n-4-8-seconds/

"They managed a 4.8 to be exact on their way to a quarter in 13.5 seconds at 106 mph. In case you aren't paying close attention, that's what the current M3 does"

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106607

This article and writer is SO EXCITED that is is FASTER than the OLD 3 series. HAHHAHAHA Awesome. "Damn this new car is better than the competitions old car! We won!

" Whatever the cause, the car doesn't feel as fast as a 306-hp sedan should as it zips to 60 mph. It does, however, beat the last 330i and A4 we tested (both equipped with six-speed manual transmissions) by 0.5 and 1.6 seconds, respectively. It also blasted through the quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds, smoking the German competition by about the same 0.6 to 1.5 seconds."


335 13.5 1/4 mile
is350 14.2 1/4

[Mike Lowrey]

But it is not faster.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/26/t...n-4-8-seconds/

"They managed a 4.8 to be exact on their way to a quarter in 13.5 seconds at 106 mph. In case you aren't paying close attention, that's what the current M3 does"

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106607

This article and writer is SO EXCITED that is is FASTER than the OLD 3 series. HAHHAHAHA Awesome. "Damn this new car is better than the competitions old car! We won!

" Whatever the cause, the car doesn't feel as fast as a 306-hp sedan should as it zips to 60 mph. It does, however, beat the last 330i and A4 we tested (both equipped with six-speed manual transmissions) by 0.5 and 1.6 seconds, respectively. It also blasted through the quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds, smoking the German competition by about the same 0.6 to 1.5 seconds."


335 13.5 1/4 mile
is350 14.2 1/4

Let's see, so you take the slowest posted time for the IS350 to compare to the 335?

Do you BMW guys sit around sucking each others' dicks?

I have personally run a 13.4 in a stock IS350. There have been verified times as low as 13.3 for stock IS350's. That compares to a range of 13.2 - 13.6 in the 335. Let us compare fairly.

Not go find another M3 owner, so you can suck his cock.

[DinanM3atl]

Let's see, so you take the slowest posted time for the IS350 to compare to the 335?

Do you BMW guys sit around sucking each others' dicks?

I have personally run a 13.4 in a stock IS350. There have been verified times as low as 13.3 for stock IS350's. That compares to a range of 13.2 - 13.6 in the 335. Let us compare fairly.

Not go find another M3 owner, so you can suck his cock.

I just searched and went with the first link.

Resort to calling people names and insulting me. Very mature. Have you considered being on a Debate team?

[Mike Lowrey]

I just searched and went with the first link.

Resort to calling people names and insulting me. Very mature. Have you considered being on a Debate team?

No debate team for me. Just don't understand what it is to be a BMW nutswinger, and never will.

[DinanM3atl]

No debate team for me. Just don't understand what it is to be a BMW nutswinger, and never will.

You should think about it.

Just tell the other debater they suck dick. That will work.

[ISAtlanta300]

But it is not faster.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/26/t...n-4-8-seconds/

"They managed a 4.8 to be exact on their way to a quarter in 13.5 seconds at 106 mph. In case you aren't paying close attention, that's what the current M3 does"

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106607

This article and writer is SO EXCITED that is is FASTER than the OLD 3 series. HAHHAHAHA Awesome. "Damn this new car is better than the competitions old car! We won!

" Whatever the cause, the car doesn't feel as fast as a 306-hp sedan should as it zips to 60 mph. It does, however, beat the last 330i and A4 we tested (both equipped with six-speed manual transmissions) by 0.5 and 1.6 seconds, respectively. It also blasted through the quarter-mile in 14.2 seconds, smoking the German competition by about the same 0.6 to 1.5 seconds."


335 13.5 1/4 mile
is350 14.2 1/4

Funny how all of a sudden you won't use your beloved CAR AND DRIVER Magazine (like you did before to hail your oh so godly BMW) to accurately quote the IS350's numbers
AAANnnnd I quote:
"It also has 306 ponies from an all-new 3.5-liter V-6, enough to make 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and sear your quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph with a few flicks of the steering-wheel paddles controlling the six-speed automatic. Every other car here sucks its dust. Welcome to the most exuberant Lexus ever built."

Yeah. GTFout of here.

But but.. WAIT !!! Didn't you say that "OMFG QUARTER MILE !! BMW don't build cars for the drag strip !! WOWZERS WHO cares about quarter miles?" so then why bring up stats about the 335 quarter mile?

Again. GTFout of here.

[DinanM3atl]

Funny how all of a sudden you won't use your beloved CAR AND DRIVER Magazine (like you did before to hail your oh so godly BMW) to accurately quote the IS350's numbers
AAANnnnd I quote:
"It also has 306 ponies from an all-new 3.5-liter V-6, enough to make 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and sear your quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 104 mph with a few flicks of the steering-wheel paddles controlling the six-speed automatic. Every other car here sucks its dust. Welcome to the most exuberant Lexus ever built."

Yeah. GTFout of here.

But but.. WAIT !!! Didn't you say that "OMFG QUARTER MILE !! BMW don't build cars for the drag strip !! WOWZERS WHO cares about quarter miles?" so then why bring up stats about the 335 quarter mile?

Again. GTFout of here.

You GTFout. Did you read what I wrote? I guess not because I said "Sorry I just clicked on the first google link".

Funny how you talked shit and said "no way M3 beat an NSX" but you didn't even reply to that when I posted up the facts. Also I can't find where I said I had a boner for Car and Driver. They just happened to do the article in which the m3 tounced cars 2 and 3 times its price.(including an NSX-T which you said was bullshit. Then when I post an article with raw numbers(IE Corner speeds) you have nothing to say. Funny how that works)

I am not going to get into this again. Jaime and a few others are the only ones in here not calling people names and telling people to "Get The Fuck Out"(Wow that is mature) and telling me that "I need to go suck some BMW owners dick"(Again. How old are you?)

It is pointless. Grow up and learn how to post a coherent thought with some facts and figures. Telling someone to suck a dick just means you have nothing intelligent to say.

So GTFout.

[ISAtlanta300]

You GTFout. Did you read what I wrote? I guess not because I said "Sorry I just clicked on the first google link".

Funny how you talked shit and said "no way M3 beat an NSX" but you didn't even reply to that when I posted up the facts.

Sorry, daisy. It wasn't me that said that. Strike one.

Also I can't find where I said I had a boner for Car and Driver. They just happened to do the article in which the m3 tounced cars 2 and 3 times its price.(including an NSX-T which you said was bullshit. Then when I post an article with raw numbers(IE Corner speeds) you have nothing to say. Funny how that works)

Which was what i was implying, you used car and driver then to make a point about the handling, but did not use car and driver's IS350 quarter mile numbers. Yea, funny how that works indeed. And again, I did not argue about the NSX/M3 article. Strike two.

I am not going to get into this again. Jaime and a few others are the only ones in here not calling people names and telling people to "Get The Fuck Out"(Wow that is mature) and telling me that "I need to go suck some BMW owners dick"(Again. How old are you?.

It is pointless. Grow up and learn how to post a coherent thought with some facts and figures. Telling someone to suck a dick just means you have nothing intelligent to say.

My age has nothing to do with this, but i am sure I am older than you. I have not "called you names" or asked to you to "suck some BMW owners' dick". You have me confused again, daisy.

Strike three.....GTFOutta here. Or get new glasses.

So GTFout

"Get The Fuck Out"(Wow that is mature) lol.

[ISAtlanta300]

The funny thing is that the original article in question is actually pretty good and accurate. Can't believe how it came to all this? Can't we all enjoy our awesome cars without having to resort to "mine is better than yours" ?

[Mike Lowrey]

Funny how you talked shit and said "no way M3 beat an NSX" but you didn't even reply to that when I posted up the facts. Also I can't find where I said I had a boner for Car and Driver. They just happened to do the article in which the m3 tounced cars 2 and 3 times its price.(including an NSX-T which you said was bullshit. Then when I post an article with raw numbers(IE Corner speeds) you have nothing to say. Funny how that works)

Post the lap yimes for each of the cars. All I see is corner speeds.