Quote Originally Posted by metalman
Nice doubletalk.
The Bible says CLEARLY a believer can become lost again. Saul did just that. Perhaps its not something youve understood or been taught and you dont yet fully accept it... thats fine. Thats your choice.
Could have sworn I just agreed with you before you posted. Also, re-read the part where I said I didn't make myself clear in the beginning. I understand it and accept it, I just think you were thinking I was saying something else.

Quote Originally Posted by metalman
I never said you should be "concerned with losing your salvation"....I said that God has provided a way out of sin. Everyone struggles...primarily with giving up DOING THEIR OWN WILL.

The Bible teaches that people continuing in willful sin will not be saved.
It doesnt teach that God abandons those who "struggle". On the contrary, it teaches that God is there and HE will do all the work IF you let Him, IF you SEEK Him, IF you follow His Word, IF you submit your will to Him.

IF you truly turn to Christ you wont keep on sinning the same sins over and over and over and over....its just a matter of that IF.
I completely agree, and should add that it's not just to turn to him, but to commit to him.

Quote Originally Posted by metalman
Thats the complete gospel...as opposed to the common false version taught in many churches that says in essense...just keep sinning and don't worry...because Jesus died for you. Jesus also LIVED for you and will live IN you.
I agree with this as well, and do not believe that you can do what you want and think you can get into heaven. I'm by no means calvinisic.

I think you thought that I was saying that no matter what you do you can't lose your salvation, partly because I didn't go into depth about who this effects and stipulations.

As you agreed, the faithful Christian that allows God to continue to uncover their sin and so on will be saved, though they're found with sin, struggle and stumble on occassion. That is why I said "once saved always saved" because I was speaking of such a Christian. When God uncovers more sin in my life, I'm not unsaved again, which is what my point was.

So in essence, I think we both agree on this topic. I should just watch how I used the term "once saved always saved"...maybe be more clear about it.