Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
I'm not saying a believer can never become lost again. If someone chooses to turn their back to Him, then that's a different story.
Nice doubletalk.
The Bible says CLEARLY a believer can become lost again. Saul did just that. Perhaps its not something youve understood or been taught and you dont yet fully accept it... thats fine. Thats your choice.


Saul turned his back to God, which explains everything. I should not be concered with losing my salvation, even through my struggles, if I always turn to Christ.
I never said you should be "concerned with losing your salvation"....I said that God has provided a way out of sin. Everyone struggles...primarily with giving up DOING THEIR OWN WILL.

The Bible teaches that people continuing in willful sin will not be saved.
It doesnt teach that God abandons those who "struggle". On the contrary, it teaches that God is there and HE will do all the work IF you let Him, IF you SEEK Him, IF you follow His Word, IF you submit your will to Him.

IF you truly turn to Christ you wont keep on sinning the same sins over and over and over and over....its just a matter of that IF.

Thats the complete gospel...as opposed to the common false version taught in many churches that says in essense...just keep sinning and don't worry...because Jesus died for you. Jesus also LIVED for you and will live IN you.