Quote Originally Posted by metalman
God is willing to provide power to ANYONE to OVERCOME sin.
The thing is, the more a true Christian overcomes sin the more they realize they have more to overcome. As you gain the victory over one thing God will show you more you yet need the victory over. The true Christian will never get to a point on this earth where they will say that they have no sin or are not sinning because to do that is itself a sin. If nothing else that would be pride and remember what happens after pride? Yep...a fall.
This being said, how would one ever gain salvation if God continues to find sin in us? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you saying if you sin you're pulling yourself away from God and therefore unsaved? If at every moment that I sin I become unsaved, what is the purpose of Jesus dying for us? Was his death not enough to cover the sin that I have done? I'm still not getting a clear answer on this from you. Excuse my ignorance if I sound redunant, I just don't get your side.

Quote Originally Posted by metalman
Please...lets address one non Biblical teaching at a time. Rapture is not a Biblical teaching. Its a latin word....that should tell the discerning student of its origin.
Rapture" comes from the words "caught up" in I Thessalonians 4:17. In the Greek the word is harpazo - "to seize upon by force", "to snatch up." The Latin translators used the word rapturo. Some people claim that "rapture" is not a Biblical term. This is untrue, unless they want to say that "God" and "Jesus" are not Biblical Terms. Almost all words in our English Bible are translations of Greek or Hebrew expressions, and are, therefore, not in the Bible in the form we know them. "God" is a proper and meaningful translation of certain words in the original languages, and "Jesus" is a good translation for us of His name (Yeshua, "Joshua," "The Lord Saves," in Hebrew). In the same way, the English word "rapture" which means "to be caught up" is an excellent translation for the Greek harpazo.

this is a whole different thread though