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[Maniacc]

I am an Atheist.

I'm only responding to the things that I find interesting...

Because the majority of the stuff you posted I've known since I was in middle school.

I have a hard time with Atheism cause I think we're lacking a really good definition here. If it is simply people who do not believe in God, it needs some explanation. Does that refer to the Judeo-Christian God? Does it refer to all gods, including the Greco-Roman, Egyptian, Norse, or Celtic pantheons? Do your atheistic beliefs include every single possibility of God that has ever been conceived, including Shiva, Vishnu, or the concept of Nirvana?

If it does, then I would like to know how you gleaned that knowledge. This goes out to all the atheists here... I'm serious. How do you know for sure that there is NOTHING out there? Isn't claiming you KNOW that there is a LACK of something to claim that you know EVERYTHING that is?

For example, if I said I had a poster of Megan Fox on my bedroom wall, could you verify that I in fact, do NOT, until you come to my apartment, observe each wall, and realize that not a single square inch of wall contains such a poster? Of course not. So what gives you such a knowledge of the universe to say there is NO god or higer power out there?

I think it's quite a mighty claim to say you know for SURE that something DOES NOT exist, when it has the entire infinite universe in which to reside. Now, I not saying that in some planet out there lives some person who sees what goes on all around him and that he has powers that we just can't comprehend but to say that their is nothing out there and that all of this happened by chance is stupid. Which is why I sometimes rather not even put myself in a catagory.

Here's a question - Do atheists deny the existence of all divine beings, or just the typical ones?
By definition, it would be all. Otherwise, they would be a skeptic. Right?


Let's take the tooth fairy.
Since you haven't seen the tooth fairy, it must not exist, correct? Suppose you lose a tooth, put it under your pillow one night, and wake up the next morning to find a quarter in it's place?

Do you believe:
A. The natural order of the universe is to replace teeth with quarters.
B. Pillows have a magical power to convert teeth to quarters
C. Some external force was messing with you and you want your damn tooth back because a quarter isn't worth anything anymore!

If you cannot detect something physically, does that mean it is not real? What about the concepts of love and hate? What about all concepts? You cannot physcially measure love, does that mean that it does not exist? Especially since "God is love" in the Bible - does that mean that you really don't want to believe in love? Also, what about hate, faith, hope, justice, etc? Do they exist? What makes them real to you?
If you believe in ANY higher power, then BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION, you are not an atheist.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

More or less my point is that unless you claim to know everything, you can't say there's DEFINITELY no god. Now, if you wanna say you don't believe in Christianity, Jesus, and Santa Clause, that's a different story. And we can argue about that all day long, with much better results.

And aside from that, just because you haven't seen, heard, or experienced any physical evidence of a god doesn't mean other people haven't. Consider the tooth fairy, if you want to use that example. We all know that's not true, and yet you have experienced evidence that it is. So why is the reverse not true? It seems like a leap of logic to say that because you haven't seen any evidence of something that in the whole wide universe it doesn't exist.

Again, I'm agnostic but I'm not going to sit here and say that we are it and there is nothing greater than us out there. Because we don't know and it's smarter to keep learning until we find the answers. Keep claiming you're an atheist - just try not to be to caught up so much in your belief that it'll leave you sounding like a dude on crack.

You say on one of the planets had enough oxygen and water to sustain life. How do you know it was just one?

You took my OP and read too deep into it. Perhaps you didn't catch the sarcasm.

And after all the circles in your post, can you honestly say that you don't believe in a higher power? That question is just as elborate and thought out as yours. The question is, WHY WOULDN'T A GREATER POWER KNOW ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THE BASES IF HE WAS GOING TO MAKE AN INTRACATE UNIVERSE? You post for the entertainment of "putting Christians' in their place" but you haven't really asked anything that would prove Christianity wrong.

I'm agnostic, son. I do believe in a higer power...

And you think I'm really trying to put Christians and religious nutcases in their place? I haven't even started and already I've won. But if you wanna see that I can I'll type down a questions for them.


Here's 1 question. Hell - does it make sense to you? Because it doesn't to me... unless the devil is actually in cahoots with god, the entire premise of hell makes no sense to me. Why would the devil punish people who don't believe in god? Shouldn't hell be some heathen paradise as a reward for sinners?

If you have an answer quote this and reply. If I get a good response I'll ask another one.

Unfortunately, I envy them. I wish I could be so brainless to believe something that there is no proof besides for a book written by men, and translated by even more men over the course of thousands of years. I wish I could find the pure and blind faith to never ask for proof and ask questions. But I don't. But these questions should do nothing but make any knowledged person laugh.

Dear God,

Thanks for muscles that contract spontaneously. And an immune system that can't tell the difference between a speck of dust and an invading army of microbes. And the dual use of the throat for eating/drinking and breathing - that's real classy. Also, thanks for the bounty of undrinkable water on this planet - that'll come in handy. And barren, lifeless deserts. And 110°F summers. And hurricanes. And random meteor strikes.

Oh and one more thing God. As our creator, I would like to give thanks on behalf of all of humanity for the following...

- For giving homo sapiens an appendix which serves no purpose other than to become infected and potentially life threatening.

- For our extremely poorly designed and vulnerable knee joints.

- For allowing the hair on our arms to stick up, providing no useful resistance to cold or wind, as it does with other animals.

- For testing us by afflicting some (including your most ardent followers) with blindness, leukemia, sickle cell anemia, bipolar disorder, autism, deafness, alzheimer's, man there are too many to list.

- For creating a world in which you knew in advance that atrocities would be committed in your name, yet have done nothing to directly (or even indirectly for that matter) to stop them.

- For allowing your followers to further the spread of AIDS and promote world overpopulation.

- For subverting the rights of women everywhere.

- For contradicting your own stories in every book written by you or directly on your behalf.

- For poisoning the minds of children, often irreparably, so that you may serve as their 'shepherd' and reducing your greatest creation to that of a mindless herd animal.

There are many more things for which I'd like to give you thanks, and I humbly beg your forgiveness for being unable to come up with them at this time.

In Jesus' name
Amen.