Religion - Join in the fun!

[stillaneon]

Right all the money given to some guy on the TV go to what you listed above? come on man realy you think that? Search yahoo for the homes of some of the televangelist, there freaking huge and extravagnt, If they were so worried about being close to god the moey they spent on their home woud have been sent back in to the communitys. Now yes some churches do give back to communitys and yes i know they have bills to pay but think about this, lets say we go to this church that has 15 (average american) members. How much money a week are you bringing in if every one tiths 40% or even only 20%?

If you honestly believe that all tithing goes to TV evangalists, you are sadly mistaken. I'm not a Christina, but I still tithe to my father's church because I know that the money will be used to help out others. Tithing is 10% not 40%.

And if you want to see where the TV evangalists are wrong, read Genesis 28:

Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me and will watch over me on this journey I am taking and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear so that I return safely to my father’s house, then the Lord will be my God and this stone that I have set up as a pillar will be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will give you a tenth” (Genesis 28:20-22).

You do not owe religious leaders a thing. You tithe to help, not to pay off God

I never said God had to say go kill, I just ment that if "King whatever" says kill a person or group of people and some one ask why it is accepted and more palatable if his respons is "god said so"

No it's not. There is a seperation of church and state in most countries. Unless you are a barbarian (which had pagan gods btw) usually you don't just attack another country unless you have some cause. Again, who would question a King anyway? Marshall law would dictate you dying if you questioned a kings authority. I would have understood if you said president, but then again, that's what the check and balance system is for.

The point here is that chistians belive in a very far fetched story, replace this story with another one or a fairy tale and all of a sudden its laughble, or even more so.

It's called faith. And I won't dog it. If people believe it and it fills the void in their life, then neither should you. Unless you have proof it's farfetched, then keep your opinions to yourself. Remember, God Transcends our understandings.

Ok the old testement in a nut shell: God say to Joseph "im gonna knock up you wife, dont worry tho she will still be a virgin. She will give birth to a baby boy named Jesus that is realy me."

*Skip ahead a little*

Jesus who is also god goes around and does "magic" and "heals" people and also teaches that his "father" (who by the way didnt have sex with his mom and is also him)sent him here to teach ever one about God(his self).

*skip ahead some more*

Some guy gets mad at Jesus(God) and decides to kill him. And in stead of saving him self with his "magic" he lets it happen to frogive the sins of every one past, present and future. Now Jeasus and God who are the one and the same but NOT are chillen in this very exclusive club called Heaven, and the only way in is to follow there rules here on earth.

Umm I hate to point this out but this would be the New Testament, and it would only be the gospels.

God never talked to Joseph or Mary, Gabriel did.

He was conceived immaculately, and did walk the earth performing miracles. He prophesized and taught how to be a decent person (what's wrong with that)

It was more than one guy, the Pharisees, saw their world crumbling. They were rich off of misleading the people and they had power, and then one man (the son of a carpenter) was destroying it so they had him killed on insane charges. And it is well known that the bible explains, He could have saved himself, but he died and suffered so that you wouldn't have to kill a lamb once a year at passover. He bridged the gap between God and people by showing that God was also a man. Now we talk to him through prayer (unless you are catholic).

But I see what you are saying:

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If you honestly believe that all tithing goes to TV evangalists, you are sadly mistaken. I'm not a Christina, but I still tithe to my father's church because I know that the money will be used to help out others. Tithing is 10% not 40%.

And if you want to see where the TV evangalists are wrong, read Genesis 28:

You do not owe religious leaders a thing. You tithe to help, not to pay off God

My views of this subject are from a personal experience, being that it is a tender subject I would like to omit any more arguments on this subject.

No it's not. There is a seperation of church and state in most countries. Unless you are a barbarian (which had pagan gods btw) usually you don't just attack another country unless you have some cause. Again, who would question a King anyway? Marshall law would dictate you dying if you questioned a kings authority. I would have understood if you said president, but then again, that's what the check and balance system is for.

For example the crap going on in the Middel East, even tho its mainly the radical Muslims do the bombing and what not they are doing it in there gods name. Also I use the term "king" loose, basicaly meaning anyone in power over a group of people.

Also I know the Keran(sp?) never says for them to do any this, but perverted faith is still faith none the less.

It's called faith. And I won't dog it. If people believe it and it fills the void in their life, then neither should you. Unless you have proof it's farfetched, then keep your opinions to yourself. Remember, God Transcends our understandings.

I think you miss understand me. I wish no ill will on thoes who belive in religion nore do I wish to change there minds of such.I just dont agree with it. I do have friends that are religious, we just avoid this subject.

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