Quote Originally Posted by EJdm
all that stuff is just business money making...you really dont need all that stuff plus its expensive...just lift naturally...best way to do it...
not true. before i discovered how to properly use suppliments i was around 160 with 12.5" arms after a ten week cycle i am up to 15" arms and 176 pounds with a bf% of 12.3 they are not a waste if used correctly....