that is true. i started lifting when i was about 18. not really heavy tho until i was 19 grew a little bit but when you don't see any improvements you need that little extra push. i take suppliments. now i am only taking creatine and high protein diet. the reason most people do roids is because you can get such huge gains that you would never see naturally and they become addicted and see that is their only way of getting even bigger. go look at my thread in this section. there is alot of good info in it.Originally Posted by One_Bad_SHO
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