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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    That genetics aren't as big a deal with identity politics as they are cracked up to be.

    You just said it yourself, you don't need male or female sex organs to determine gender. Gender is just the way that we culturally express the characteristics associated with primary and secondary biological sex. Primary sex refers to reproductive organs, secondary sex refers to the traits that are used to distinguish the biological sexes that are not directly related to reproductive organs.

    While primary sex characteristics are biological and can't be changed completely, secondary sex characteristics are entirely changeable, and are not absolutely connected to primary sex traits... there are hairy, deep voiced women, etc.

    So really while these people cannot change their primary sex characteristics, they can change their secondary sex characteristics and the social/cultural associations that come with them.
    That doesnt make them change what they are just because one sounds,acts, and looks like something doesnt mean they are what they're cut out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCee View Post
    That doesnt make them change what they are just because one sounds,acts, and looks like something doesnt mean they are what they're cut out to be.
    According to you and your definitions. But you don't have the moral authority to define other peoples lives for them.

    You may say I don't matter... I say you don't matter, in the end neither of us matter. Enjoy your self-righteous indignation at things you cannot change while you can, life is short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    According to you and your definitions. But you don't have the moral authority to define other peoples lives for them.

    You may say I don't matter... I say you don't matter, in the end neither of us matter. Enjoy your self-righteous indignation at things you cannot change while you can, life is short.
    Lol its funny that your calling me self -righteous when I just disagree with your opinion. Its cool though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCee View Post
    Lol its funny that your calling me self -righteous when I just disagree with your opinion. Its cool though.
    You want to decide other people's lives for them based on your own personal prejudices. Is there another word for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    You want to decide other people's lives for them based on your own personal prejudices. Is there another word for that?
    What personal prejudice would you say I have sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistaCee View Post
    What personal prejudice would you say I have sir?
    You're trying to enforce a gender binary that is not supported by the prevailing model of gender theory. You're purposefully not recognizing the difference between "sex" and "gender" because you claim transgendered people are "living in denial". So I'd say you're sexist.

    I mean, at least you're not racist (maybe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    You're trying to enforce a gender binary that is not supported by the prevailing model of gender theory. You're purposefully not recognizing the difference between "sex" and "gender" because you claim transgendered people are "living in denial". So I'd say you're sexist.

    I mean, at least you're not racist (maybe).
    Eh. Not really. I just don't consider a TS a true male or woman. I don't look down on transgendered people ot am I to enforce anything, what does it have to do with me at the end of the day? But I guess your entitled to your opinion of me as well ,and just as I said before your opinion doesn't affect my everyday life.

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