Evidently not. Later, QD.Originally Posted by Bajjani
Evidently not. Later, QD.
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Yes they are, they have whats there to produce it just doesn't function.
LOL way to try and turn that around to make an argument.
That isn't turning it around, thats restating his argument.
He has parts to reproduce also.
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Its not about "calling something other than what it is."
This might blow some of your minds, but gender is really a choice. all the traits you associate with gender, its all just a social construction in your head. Most people just accept the paradigms they are given and don't question it.
But really, you all are saying its the parts that make you what you are. What about people who are born with genitals that can't be recognized as male or female, like Lady Gaga? What about someone who loses their parts in an industrial accident or when they step on a landmine... does that affect their gender?
Whats wrong with letting people live how they choose to? I've found that people who are the most defensive about this kind of stuff, the biggest homophobes... are really just people who are the most insecure with themselves. They try to re-enforce their own identities by shitting on other peoples'
Before they chop off their penis and dress like a girl, they should know what kind of shit their going to get from other people.
I have no problems with gays/transexuals at all, but i don't think this should have been such a big deal. its McDonald. Go to the next fast food restaurant and apply there.
It's all about the money at the end.
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for one homosexuality is wrong, but then to take it to the extreme of transgender...just out right blatant...not to mention of how they want rights just as anyone else, thats a NO. the same DECISION you make in life, you have to deal with the consequences. making some kind of organization just to gain rights as a transgender is foolish. the original reason of not discriminating against someone based on their gender is their born gender, not teh gender they DECIDE to be....theres a difference between being born as a female and changing your lifestyle to become a transgender
Some don't.
And what happens to the women that have female parts and they are removed? They go from being a "real woman" to not?
I honestly don't even know why this is an argument/debate. It is what it is. It is NOT what you say it is. It is NOT what I say it is. This like an opinion, well, it actually IS an opinion. There is no right or wrong answer. And why put so much heart and hatred into something that not only do you have no control over, but something that has no control over you? I asked before what has a transgendered person done to you to make you think they should not be "tolerated." I was even wrong in that question because I was actually putting all transgendered people into a category of what one person may have done. So even if one he/she had fucked something up for you, you still shouldn't have hate for all of them.
Again with the state of the world these days. People are too concerned with things that have no bearing on their lives that they create an insecure environment for those around them. It just brings the plant down to a lower level each time. Later, QD.
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If you don't want to answer my question, just say so, homey. Later, QD.
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because its their decision to become something they are not, its wrong.
Its not about insecurity I can care less what the next man/woman/both does. Can I ask a question though. When a transgendered person is fully transformed do you think their chromosone is changed also?
Unless I am behind the times I have not heard of a TS having a child through traditional methods.
When did this become about the choice of reproducing?
I know plenty of women who DON'T want children. They decide for themselves not to reproduce. The argument was they aren't "real" because they lack the ability to, not the choice.
Smartass, you know what I mean.False... people were granted titles of nobility all the time. Henry VIII gave out something like 500 titles.
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So if some man decides he wants to be a woman....all of his DNA and everything internally and externally are then changed to that of a woman?
Is that what you are saying? If so, thats fucking amazing man.
When did I say anything about a choice?
I agree. Chromosomes and all just poof!
The argument was they lack the capacity to reproduce, that's false, through their choices they decide not to.When did I say anything about a choice?
Think harder.
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Its not about DNA, its a state of mind. There is no link between DNA and what people perceive as gender. It has nothing to do with physiology/biology, it has everything to do with psychology, sociology, etc.
For example, Black people and White people are pretty much the same. Asians too. As far as DNA goes they are 99.999999999% identical. I might have more in common genetically with a Black or an Asian than I do with another White person. But look how different the cultures are... its all just social construction.
So that's the basis of your intolerance to people of this persuasion? You're not shallow much, are you? It must suck to have to live a life where people who have not had any affect on your life, yet keeps you that insecure. Glad I only have to worry about robbers and murders and other criminals. I would hate to have to add transgendered and homosexual people to that list. God help me if I accidentally breathe the same air as one of "them" and get infected.
Talk about turning something around, lolol. Later, QD.
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Gender has EVERYTHING to do with your body and theyparts you have....it has nothing at all to do with anything else. The parts you have are what make you a male or female (sometimes both) but you cant change that by surgery or simply thinking you are something else.
How would social construction change body parts? That makes no sense whatsoever.
LOL apparently hes not the only one who can do that.
Can you show me a transexual woman that has reproduced? Or do they all choose not to?
Hahah!!! I can say though, I'm glad this discussion has stayed civil and lacked name calling and insults. I like to see this kind of talk without thinking that someone is getting all pissed off and shit.
Good job, fellas. Later, QD.
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YOU ARE ALL JACKASSES BECAUSE YOU DONT SEE THE SAME THINGS I DO!!!! FAWK JOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!1
Lol thats true though....I like these types of conversations. Im not mad at all and I hope no one else is.
What prevents them from being able to?
I know what you're trying to argue, but your argument was they CAN NOT reproduce. The correct argument would be, they can not give birth.
But then that goes back to there are women who are "born female" that cannot as well.
So like I said, it is their choice to NOT reproduce.
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Thomas Beattie. Oregon man gave birth last year. He has been a man for all of the last 10 years. Not a man-to-woman, but the opposite. Later, QD.
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Still a woman
I heard about that thats why I said transexual woman haha. Does he not still have female sexual organs?
Exactly. I'm not trying to sway your thoughts, they are yours and that's how it is. I'm just tying to put some "food for thought" out there for you to mull over. To me, it's close-minded thinking, but who's to say what I think about you in that aspect is right or wrong, you know? Later, QD.
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Can they be impregnated naturally?
Not as recognized by the state of Oregon! HA!Still a woman
Yeah, i caught you were being specific, lolol. And yes, he retained his female parts while adding the male member. Later, QD.
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Yes, She has to in order to have a child.
He's still a woman in my eyes then lol Fuck Oregon(no offense to and Oregon people.) Speaking of Oregon where can I play the official Oregon trails game? lol
Thats beyond me LOL I have no idea. If they were born with male parts they are a male or if they were born with female parts they are female I know that much.Why do people who lose limbs have phantom pains and feelings in their missing limbs? Its not about the physical body, its about how the mind perceives the physical body.
Is there a chromosome for bigotry, or did you just wake up and decide to be a bigot one day?
My beliefs are my beliefs. You can believe that someone can think about being another gender so hard that something happens and changes their body all you want. Thats your opinion.
LMAO its out there somewhere I actually found it not to long ago.
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