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    Quote Originally Posted by oneSLOWex View Post
    So its legal to call something other than what it really is? Sounds a bit crazy to me.
    Its not about "calling something other than what it is."

    This might blow some of your minds, but gender is really a choice. all the traits you associate with gender, its all just a social construction in your head. Most people just accept the paradigms they are given and don't question it.

    But really, you all are saying its the parts that make you what you are. What about people who are born with genitals that can't be recognized as male or female, like Lady Gaga? What about someone who loses their parts in an industrial accident or when they step on a landmine... does that affect their gender?

    Whats wrong with letting people live how they choose to? I've found that people who are the most defensive about this kind of stuff, the biggest homophobes... are really just people who are the most insecure with themselves. They try to re-enforce their own identities by shitting on other peoples'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Its not about "calling something other than what it is."

    This might blow some of your minds, but gender is really a choice. all the traits you associate with gender, its all just a social construction in your head. Most people just accept the paradigms they are given and don't question it.

    But really, you all are saying its the parts that make you what you are. What about people who are born with genitals that can't be recognized as male or female, like Lady Gaga? What about someone who loses their parts in an industrial accident or when they step on a landmine... does that affect their gender?

    Whats wrong with letting people live how they choose to? I've found that people who are the most defensive about this kind of stuff, the biggest homophobes... are really just people who are the most insecure with themselves. They try to re-enforce their own identities by shitting on other peoples'

    So if some man decides he wants to be a woman....all of his DNA and everything internally and externally are then changed to that of a woman?

    Is that what you are saying? If so, thats fucking amazing man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneSLOWex View Post
    So if some man decides he wants to be a woman....all of his DNA and everything internally and externally are then changed to that of a woman?

    Is that what you are saying? If so, thats fucking amazing man.
    I agree. Chromosomes and all just poof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneSLOWex View Post
    So if some man decides he wants to be a woman....all of his DNA and everything internally and externally are then changed to that of a woman?
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    Its not about DNA, its a state of mind. There is no link between DNA and what people perceive as gender. It has nothing to do with physiology/biology, it has everything to do with psychology, sociology, etc.

    For example, Black people and White people are pretty much the same. Asians too. As far as DNA goes they are 99.999999999% identical. I might have more in common genetically with a Black or an Asian than I do with another White person. But look how different the cultures are... its all just social construction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Its not about DNA, its a state of mind. There is no link between DNA and what people perceive as gender. It has nothing to do with physiology/biology, it has everything to do with psychology, sociology, etc.

    For example, Black people and White people are pretty much the same. Asians too. As far as DNA goes they are 99.999999999% identical. I might have more in common genetically with a Black or an Asian than I do with another White person. But look how different the cultures are... its all just social construction.
    Gender has EVERYTHING to do with your body and theyparts you have....it has nothing at all to do with anything else. The parts you have are what make you a male or female (sometimes both) but you cant change that by surgery or simply thinking you are something else.

    How would social construction change body parts? That makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneSLOWex View Post
    How would social construction change body parts? That makes no sense whatsoever.
    Why do people who lose limbs have phantom pains and feelings in their missing limbs? Its not about the physical body, its about how the mind perceives the physical body.

    Is there a chromosome for bigotry, or did you just wake up and decide to be a bigot one day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender View Post
    Why do people who lose limbs have phantom pains and feelings in their missing limbs? Its not about the physical body, its about how the mind perceives the physical body.

    Is there a chromosome for bigotry, or did you just wake up and decide to be a bigot one day?
    Thats beyond me LOL I have no idea. If they were born with male parts they are a male or if they were born with female parts they are female I know that much.

    My beliefs are my beliefs. You can believe that someone can think about being another gender so hard that something happens and changes their body all you want. Thats your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneSLOWex View Post
    My beliefs are my beliefs. You can believe that someone can think about being another gender so hard that something happens and changes their body all you want. Thats your opinion.
    Their body doesn't change genetically/biologically. What changes is their legal status and the social and cultural recognition of their gender. You accept them as what they say they are regardless of parts they may or may not have.

    Here's a question for you, what makes you a man... is it just biology, or is it not also culture? What would you say if you went and had a blood test and they told you have 2 X chromosomes (female) instead of XY (male). Would you still think of yourself as a man, or would you start dressing and acting like a woman?

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