What does it take for an EF to run 13s

[BABY J]

lol im with you i dont see a cx doing 13 sec pass on only 50 noway . or prove me wrong . always open to learning the things

Same here. Steph couldn't even pull that off even w/ a tailwind.

[BABY J]

not a legit time but street raced a 13 sec rex (high 13)with my 89 dx hatch with a DOHC zc and 65 shot si trans ,took him by half a car 2x maybe he sand bagging or not . but i assumed i could brake 13's int he track never did it though( never assume )

i did do a 1/8 mile in Irwindale speedway in cali . 9.2 hope i can find the time slip

we are talking SOHC. ZC > SOHC at anything over 60mph.

[SLow_POke]

we are talking SOHC. ZC > SOHC at anything over 60mph.

oHHHHHH gotta read theu each thread . lol

[sirhatch1030]

i see it happen with a cx . it is a lite car , then if u gut it 1,975 pounds some where around there and with a good kit it is possiable, but i say do a b16 i,h,e and a 75 shot , i know it will do mid to low 13,s all day with a jdm s1 tranny.

[green91]

the cx is lite but squeezing the cx motor even with a light chassis isnt going to net 13s

[sirhatch1030]

swap out manifolds and in take , and my money is on the cx

[2.0civic]

A stock 8 valve CX with a 50 shot? Running 13s? I'm not sure I can believe that.

i would love to see that happen

[SLow_POke]

swap out manifolds and in take , and my money is on the cx

i still dont see it even with a built head a cx head at that have u seen those heads taken apart .. no bueno

[sirhatch1030]

b16, 75shot is all it takes to go 13,s

[BTLFED]

i still dont see it even with a built head a cx head at that have u seen those heads taken apart .. no bueno

That's what I was thinking....8 valves = teh suck.

[Halfwit]

b16, 75shot is all it takes to go 13,s

then why did u have to have a gsr block type r head, and spray to run 13.8? seems like it would be faster than b16......

[BABY J]

^^ There are many ways to skin a cat. He is tryna get you there at the lowest pricepoint. B16 cheaper than B18.

[Halfwit]

^^ There are many ways to skin a cat. He is tryna get you there at the lowest pricepoint. B16 cheaper than B18.

i didnt ask for cheapest price point, i asked what would be a good setup to run 13,s and have potential for more, and not be the most expensive.

money isnt a option, it will just take time to save, if i wanted a k20 or some other shit it would get it, just in like a year,

but i should have this in 3-4 months.

gsr seems like a smart choice imo..for power,price,and potential.

[BABY J]

Well there ya go!

[99SI]

Casey stop listening to everyone's convoluted opinions get a GSR do some bolt ons and have a good little car to build upon. It leaves you many options to go with to start making bigger power.

[BABY J]

^^ nuh uhhh!!! LOL

[Vteckidd]

I think we settled on a GSR. It may not get him in the 13s off the bat, but itll DEF go low 14s, hell have the best B series platform to build on should he decide to go NA, boost, Nitrous.

[Vteckidd]

CX 80HP motor plus a 50shot=KABLOOEY

[BABY J]

LOL. He said "kablooey" LOL.

[sirhatch1030]

I NEVER SPRAYED THAT MOTOR , I RAN 13.8 ON MOTOR UN TUNED COULDENT FIND ANY GAS THAT DAY.

[sirhatch1030]

then why did u have to have a gsr block type r head, and spray to run 13.8? seems like it would be faster than b16......

IT WAS ALL MOTOR , I DIDENT GET A CHANCE TO FILL MY BOTTLE BEFOR THAT SAT. I WAS RUNNING MID 14,S THEN SWAPED TIRES AND GOT SOME 110 OCTANE AND RAN 13.8

[IntegraXTR]

^^ still good times even without spray

[Halfwit]

I NEVER SPRAYED THAT MOTOR , I RAN 13.8 ON MOTOR UN TUNED COULDENT FIND ANY GAS THAT DAY.

OK, DONT GO CRAZY, IT WILL BE OK.....good run then.

[mp5o]

To the OP...

d16z6
Pistons/rods
Arp bolts/studs
HMT kit
Chrome/Uberdata
440's/walbro 255
Tuning

Cheapest way to get fast. Reliably. IMO

[BABY J]

^^ Now post the same thing w/ the "street price" for those parts.

[mp5o]

To the OP...

d16z6 ~500
Pistons/rods ~700
Arp bolts/studs ~400
HMT kit ~2000
Chrome/Uberdata ~200
440's/walbro 255 ~500
Tuning ~150/HR

Cheapest way to get fast. Reliably. IMO

Roughly 4500... The other 500 can be spent on machine shop labor.

[99SI]

That was what I originally suggested but he is fundamentally opposed to going with a single cam regardless of what's done to it. That has been ruled out. He only wants to look at twin cams and get opinions based on what people think would be the best route between those motors.

[BABY J]

He can get a Z6 for cheaper than that. I was just wanting him to have it outlined so he can see the budgeting. I personally would go for building the SOHC as well.

[mp5o]

That was what I originally suggested but he is fundamentally opposed to going with a single cam regardless of what's done to it. That has been ruled out. He only wants to look at twin cams and get opinions based on what people think would be the best route between those motors.

Im not sure I understand that logic... People give a budget and ask "how do I break 13's?" Then when given the most logical solution... They rule it out. Turbo D16 is simply the cheapest way to get fast, reliably.

[Halfwit]

gtfo with thes sohc's.....diaf

[BABY J]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95...74391578QQrdZ1

[99SI]

^^^^ shut up Mr. "D16 is not an interferance motor" LMAO

[BABY J]

^^ U wanna lick my WHAT???


PS: and when I find that damn ENDYN article we ALL will be educated as to why it's not as much an interference motor. Ass!!! LOL


**cries**

**leaves**

**counts checking account**

**feels better**


LMAO!!

[99SI]

Endyn does make good heads, he's also a smart guy that comes up with a bunch of theories. However, he has not had the greatest rep for pulling off what he says he can.

[BABY J]

I'd say "good" is a huge understatment. I'd like to see some examples (offline) of NOT pulling off stuff. IMO he has "arrived" to the upper echelon of automotive genius.

[99SI]

He does know his theory like I said, and he is a smart guy. But, "upper echelon of automotive genius." I wouldn't quite be ready to lay that one on him.

[EK9Type S]

Your best bet with room for expansion would definetly be a K swap, dont get me wrong B's are sweet but save your money and go K you wont regret it. Soon there will be K's all over and you will feel left out wondering what you could have done. Register on K20A.org and soak up all the information you can. If not a K20 get a K24, they are cheaper and have more torque than a K20. From there you could toss on a K20 head later on down the road. Options are just as endless with K's as they are with B's but if you want reliablity you can have one quick all motor K that would stomp some ass. I ran a 14.1 with a crappy lauch in my RSX Type S I/H/E/Kpro car is about 2800+ lbs, your car is at least 600 lbs lighter, power to weight thats where its at.

[speedminded]

Your best bet with room for expansion would definetly be a K swap, dont get me wrong B's are sweet but save your money and go K you wont regret it. Soon there will be K's all over and you will feel left out wondering what you could have done. Register on K20A.org and soak up all the information you can. If not a K20 get a K24, they are cheaper and have more torque than a K20. From there you could toss on a K20 head later on down the road. Options are just as endless with K's as they are with B's but if you want reliablity you can have one quick all motor K that would stomp some ass. I ran a 14.1 with a crappy lauch in my RSX Type S I/H/E/Kpro car is about 2800+ lbs, your car is at least 600 lbs lighter, power to weight thats where its at.

14.1 on "stock" RSX...that with slicks?

[IntegraXTR]

well he did say I/H/E and KPRO

[BABY J]

K20 in an EG (+ exhaust) = 12.50s to 13.0s. www.hybrid-racing.com

I do not suspect the EF would be much worse.