What does it take for an EF to run 13s

[Halfwit]

^^ There are many ways to skin a cat. He is tryna get you there at the lowest pricepoint. B16 cheaper than B18.

i didnt ask for cheapest price point, i asked what would be a good setup to run 13,s and have potential for more, and not be the most expensive.

money isnt a option, it will just take time to save, if i wanted a k20 or some other shit it would get it, just in like a year,

but i should have this in 3-4 months.

gsr seems like a smart choice imo..for power,price,and potential.

[BABY J]

Well there ya go!

[99SI]

Casey stop listening to everyone's convoluted opinions get a GSR do some bolt ons and have a good little car to build upon. It leaves you many options to go with to start making bigger power.

[BABY J]

^^ nuh uhhh!!! LOL

[Vteckidd]

I think we settled on a GSR. It may not get him in the 13s off the bat, but itll DEF go low 14s, hell have the best B series platform to build on should he decide to go NA, boost, Nitrous.

[Vteckidd]

CX 80HP motor plus a 50shot=KABLOOEY

[BABY J]

LOL. He said "kablooey" LOL.

[sirhatch1030]

I NEVER SPRAYED THAT MOTOR , I RAN 13.8 ON MOTOR UN TUNED COULDENT FIND ANY GAS THAT DAY.

[Halfwit]

I NEVER SPRAYED THAT MOTOR , I RAN 13.8 ON MOTOR UN TUNED COULDENT FIND ANY GAS THAT DAY.

OK, DONT GO CRAZY, IT WILL BE OK.....good run then.

[IntegraXTR]

^^ still good times even without spray

[mp5o]

To the OP...

d16z6
Pistons/rods
Arp bolts/studs
HMT kit
Chrome/Uberdata
440's/walbro 255
Tuning

Cheapest way to get fast. Reliably. IMO

[mp5o]

To the OP...

d16z6 ~500
Pistons/rods ~700
Arp bolts/studs ~400
HMT kit ~2000
Chrome/Uberdata ~200
440's/walbro 255 ~500
Tuning ~150/HR

Cheapest way to get fast. Reliably. IMO

Roughly 4500... The other 500 can be spent on machine shop labor.

[BABY J]

^^ Now post the same thing w/ the "street price" for those parts.

[99SI]

That was what I originally suggested but he is fundamentally opposed to going with a single cam regardless of what's done to it. That has been ruled out. He only wants to look at twin cams and get opinions based on what people think would be the best route between those motors.

[mp5o]

That was what I originally suggested but he is fundamentally opposed to going with a single cam regardless of what's done to it. That has been ruled out. He only wants to look at twin cams and get opinions based on what people think would be the best route between those motors.

Im not sure I understand that logic... People give a budget and ask "how do I break 13's?" Then when given the most logical solution... They rule it out. Turbo D16 is simply the cheapest way to get fast, reliably.

[Halfwit]

Im not sure I understand that logic... People give a budget and ask "how do I break 13's?" Then when given the most logical solution... They rule it out. Turbo D16 is simply the cheapest way to get fast, reliably.

hmmm. maybe stfu, cause i didnt ask for the cheapest. itch. does the d16 have the potential of the gsr

ME/VTECKIDD WERE TALKING ABOUT OFF THE BAT, MAKING 13'S NOT THE OVERALL GOAL. THAT IS WHY I RULED OUT SOHC, BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF THE GSR.

[mp5o]

hmmm. maybe stfu, cause i didnt ask for the cheapest. itch. does the d16 have the potential of the gsr

ME/VTECKIDD WERE TALKING ABOUT OFF THE BAT, MAKING 13'S NOT THE OVERALL GOAL. THAT IS WHY I RULED OUT SOHC, BECAUSE I DONT BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF THE GSR.

LOL Look at this E-tuff guy here. I simply answered the question "What does it take for an EF to run 13s?" With the 5,000 budget. Which IMO is the best way to do it. I didnt bother readin the whole thread cus I really don't care that much. So talk all the shit you want G. I aint stoopin that low.

Anyways... On topic... What are your main goals? 12's? 11's? Both can be accomplished with the SOHC.... And I hope for ya own sake "itch" wasnt an attempt to call me a bitch.

[Halfwit]

LOL Look at this E-tuff guy here. I simply answered the question "What does it take for an EF to run 13s?" With the 5,000 budget. Which IMO is the best way to do it. I didnt bother readin the whole thread cus I really don't care that much. So talk all the shit you want G. I aint stoopin that low.

Anyways... On topic... What are your main goals? 12's? 11's? Both can be accomplished with the SOHC.... And I hope for ya own sake "itch" wasnt an attempt to call me a bitch.

lol.. goal at the end is high 12's and i jsut thought it would be easier/cheaper to build the gsr to 12's than the sohc.

[BABY J]

He can get a Z6 for cheaper than that. I was just wanting him to have it outlined so he can see the budgeting. I personally would go for building the SOHC as well.

[Halfwit]

gtfo with thes sohc's.....diaf

[BABY J]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-95...74391578QQrdZ1

[99SI]

^^^^ shut up Mr. "D16 is not an interferance motor" LMAO

[BABY J]

^^ U wanna lick my WHAT???


PS: and when I find that damn ENDYN article we ALL will be educated as to why it's not as much an interference motor. Ass!!! LOL


**cries**

**leaves**

**counts checking account**

**feels better**


LMAO!!

[99SI]

Endyn does make good heads, he's also a smart guy that comes up with a bunch of theories. However, he has not had the greatest rep for pulling off what he says he can.

[BABY J]

I'd say "good" is a huge understatment. I'd like to see some examples (offline) of NOT pulling off stuff. IMO he has "arrived" to the upper echelon of automotive genius.

[99SI]

He does know his theory like I said, and he is a smart guy. But, "upper echelon of automotive genius." I wouldn't quite be ready to lay that one on him.

[EK9Type S]

Your best bet with room for expansion would definetly be a K swap, dont get me wrong B's are sweet but save your money and go K you wont regret it. Soon there will be K's all over and you will feel left out wondering what you could have done. Register on K20A.org and soak up all the information you can. If not a K20 get a K24, they are cheaper and have more torque than a K20. From there you could toss on a K20 head later on down the road. Options are just as endless with K's as they are with B's but if you want reliablity you can have one quick all motor K that would stomp some ass. I ran a 14.1 with a crappy lauch in my RSX Type S I/H/E/Kpro car is about 2800+ lbs, your car is at least 600 lbs lighter, power to weight thats where its at.

[speedminded]

Your best bet with room for expansion would definetly be a K swap, dont get me wrong B's are sweet but save your money and go K you wont regret it. Soon there will be K's all over and you will feel left out wondering what you could have done. Register on K20A.org and soak up all the information you can. If not a K20 get a K24, they are cheaper and have more torque than a K20. From there you could toss on a K20 head later on down the road. Options are just as endless with K's as they are with B's but if you want reliablity you can have one quick all motor K that would stomp some ass. I ran a 14.1 with a crappy lauch in my RSX Type S I/H/E/Kpro car is about 2800+ lbs, your car is at least 600 lbs lighter, power to weight thats where its at.

14.1 on "stock" RSX...that with slicks?

[IntegraXTR]

well he did say I/H/E and KPRO

[BABY J]

K20 in an EG (+ exhaust) = 12.50s to 13.0s. www.hybrid-racing.com

I do not suspect the EF would be much worse.

[EK9Type S]

Im getting rid of my B18 and getting a K cuz it has so much more potential, theres guys running boosted stock K putting out 300+ hp easy. Hell heres a vid of a boosted stock K with 400+ hp making an 11.3 pass with a slipping clutch.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...CCDAB95E41.htm

if that vid dont sell you on the whole K swap thing I dont know what will. The key to reliability with K's is tuning cuz they can take a beating.

[Vteckidd]

READ THE FIRST POST

K is OUT OF THE QUESTION, you cannot DO IT IN AN EF FOR LESS THAN $7000. Yes Ks are better, but they cost too much.

an there are STOCK BLOCK ks making 600whp BTW. and the keys to a K series lasting is oil pressure

[EK9Type S]

READ THE FIRST POST

K is OUT OF THE QUESTION, you cannot DO IT IN AN EF FOR LESS THAN $7000. Yes Ks are better, but they cost too much.

an there are STOCK BLOCK ks making 600whp BTW. and the keys to a K series lasting is oil pressure

I understand that he is one a budget and I understand the problem with K's spinning bearings and what not, but thats for bigger setups in most cases and even that can be solved ie oil pan baffles, etc. I have been researching K swaps for quite some time now and I understand that if you choose to get a K20 ur gonna be forking out some cash. Thats why I suggested him getting a K24, its cheaper and he could always grow from there. The video I posted is to show that he could toss a K20 head on, then if he wanted to he could even grow from there and boost it. But if he went with a B he would have to do all sorts of stuff to get the same power in then what, time for a K. Save your money and you can get that K up and running and be very satisfied.

just my .02 cents

[93H22ACX]

I understand that he is one a budget and I understand the problem with K's spinning bearings and what not, but thats for bigger setups in most cases and even that can be solved ie oil pan baffles, etc. I have been researching K swaps for quite some time now and I understand that if you choose to get a K20 ur gonna be forking out some cash. Thats why I suggested him getting a K24, its cheaper and he could always grow from there. The video I posted is to show that he could toss a K20 head on, then if he wanted to he could even grow from there and boost it. But if he went with a B he would have to do all sorts of stuff to get the same power in then what, time for a K. Save your money and you can get that K up and running and be very satisfied.

just my .02 cents

honestly...k would be good for NA but you can make power with B,H, and even D if you want to be different when it comes to FI. But K would be easier to make hp with in NA form... K head > H, H head > B, stock vs stock head flow

[SiR_Boost]

[Vteckidd]

GSR is the best PLATFORM to build on.

a SOHC TURBO is the FASTEST out of anything

[SiR_Boost]

boost is best

[i4_garage]

get 5000 and go start a life....geshhh.....5000 on a 13s car that is still ugly as shit....lolz...no offense

[i4_garage]

^^i was only joking ...............EF FTW!!!!!!

[Halfwit]

^^i was only joking ...............EF FTW!!!!!!

lol thought u were partial to eks?