no its not ok.. unless the girl was raped.. then it was not her choice to have sex!
you have unprotected sex.. you deal with std's, babies and so on.. you made your bed no lay in it..
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no its not ok.. unless the girl was raped.. then it was not her choice to have sex!
you have unprotected sex.. you deal with std's, babies and so on.. you made your bed no lay in it..
Yeah that was another one of my thoughts as well.Originally Posted by XterraChic
GOOOOOOOO SOCA WARRIORS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1Originally Posted by XterraChic
the main question here i think is
If a women is raped-is it wrong to get an abortion-that is a tough question
i dont have an awnser but I did have a high school teacher that was raped and decided to still have the child. God Bless her-as far as I know they are both doing good and i think she is now engauged...what would you tell your child though who her real dad was-i don't know-that has to be very hard(if you tell her at all?) but I have respect for that women
Wow. No knock on you, but I TOTALLY disagree here. Things like this is why we have kids killing kids and kids killing adults/parents. A lot of these people are just NOT ready to become adults. Think about it... if it'd JUST affect the mom/dad if they got prego before they were ready then I'd say GO FOR IT, they need to have the kid to "teach them a lesson" or "lay in the bed they made" as you say. However it is a LIFE that will ultimately be affected. If you can't provide for YOURSELF then how/why could you provide for a kid? You can be "pro life" and that's fine, but parents who are parents before they are ready are not doing a kid ANY favors. Go to the jailhouses and ask the inmates about their upbringing and how early their mom had them. Yeah some1 CAN turn out to be something great no matter what, but why STACK THE ODDS AGAINST YOUR KID FROM THE JUMP? You build something on shaky ground it's bound to fall over. Statistics do not lie... the law of averages kix in eventually and I think we just need to be able to make the TOUGH decisions in life w/ your BRAIN and not just your heart. To me, the "make your bed and lay in" phrase means having to look yourself in the mirror and live with the fact that you had to terminate a pregancy b/c you were STUPID. Any other way you handle this problem (1: adoption, 2: trying to struggle to raise the kid when you do not have the means) and the KID pays for it, NOT you. You are "fine" living w/ the fact that "yeah, I did what I had to do and I raised him" but the KID has to live w/ the brunt of your stupidity in most cases. If I could bear that cross for my kid, I would --> I'd live w/ the fact that I had to terminate before I bring them into this world w/ anything less than the BEST chance at becoming something. Yeah, you could send your kid to a gun fight w/ only a knife and he might take out a few people... but he WILL lose. Why not send him in w/ 2 guns, a scope, some body armor and a some camo paint. The anti-abortion people are USUALLY very emo types who need to understand that there is a BALANCE --> you HAVE to use your BRAIN, there is a reason why it is bigger than your heart. To think that some chick who is STUPID/IRRESPONSIBLE enough to get knocked up before marriage ALL OF SUDDEN has the "stuff" to be a good mom, or the best mom just b/c she got prego is dumber than getting knocked up in the 1st place. She has already (and the MAN too, not just her... but the BOTTOM line is WOMEN can get pregant not men. So guess what I am gonna tell my daughter, YUP --> a man can walk away at ANY time, so it's YOUR responsibilty to not get pregnant) shown that at least in some regard she was irresponsible.Originally Posted by XterraChic
Also, as far as the women who get prego while they are ON the pill or the shot should think of some1 ELSE other than themsleves if they want the kid. If a man is gonna go raw w/ you b/c he KNOWS you are on the pill/shot then WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE FEELS IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A BABY SHOULD YOU GET KNOCKED UP???? HELLO!!!! I will give you a hint ladies... I personally think that a woman on BC does NOT want kids... AT ALL COSTS. I have a daughter now b/c I was wrong. I love her to death but this is where I messed up. I relinquished my control to some1 who did not feel the way that I did. I will never do that again. Guys... go home RIGHT NOW and ask your gf what happens if she gets prego... if she says she will not be able to terminate then change the way you play. SERIOUSLY. Take it from me... there is no worse feeling than the love of your life (i.e my daughter) coming from a woman that you would not want to be a mother to your kid. Also ladies, just remember that if your arrangement is "booty", then keep it booty... don't switch it up to "babies" just caus you fuck up. NOT kool. I will prolly be the most vocal man on the board, but I assure you I am saying what most of the guys WANNA say. /rant
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exactly how i feel about it. in rape cases, i understand it. other than that, absolutly not.Originally Posted by XterraChic
ok so since you want to make choices for other people can we tell you not to have children b/c we think your not ready? if you are so prolife why aren't you adopting 1 of the over half a million orphans?Originally Posted by collins
paul, if it comes to the point where i'm ready for kids, and if i cant have one, then you're damn right i'm looking into adoption. man you're missing what i'm saying... i'm pro choice.... but what many people forget is that jst because they're pro choice doesnt mean they're pro abortion. i agree that certain circumstances it is understandable, ie rape. after that, i said "absolutly not" when i guess i should've been more specific.... i'm not telling you what to do, i'm merely saying that i ABSOLUTLY do NOT support it. do what you do, as you have your own opinions about it (as do i). sure, you can tell me what to do, but that doesnt mean i'm going to do it, and that would be my CHOICE.Originally Posted by admin
that isn't prochoice... CHOICE is the key word... womens right to choose... if your saying your only ok w/ abortions for rape victims only then obviously there isn't much of a choice is there you've already made up your mind only rape victims should have it... get my drift.Originally Posted by collins
and again as i stated earlier those who are impending their thoughts on others don't have the balls to back up their words... i just asked you if you would adopt... you can adopt right this second there are children floating from home to home... yet i don't see you doing anything about it. so you want to voice an opinion w/o action. that my friend that is a weak foot to stand on.![]()
no, paul its not a weak foot to stand on. the reason i dont go out and adopt a child right now is because i KNOW i'm not very well qualified to take on the role of a father just yet. thats myself using common sense.Originally Posted by admin