Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
Am i sposed to go by what HT says?
Nope, but the point I am making. I am not the only one that is doing this. So, lets look at this for a bit.

You are saying you can not go over 230whp on a stock B16 without have problems. But, yet, other people have no problems (inculding me and my personal experience). You are the only that is seeming to have the problem, not other people.

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
Am i sposed to go by what HT says? im sorry but personal experience means alot then "i heard someone did this". what i meant was i cant tell you that YOUR wrong cause obviously there is a select few that have made over 300whp for awhile, an you cant tell me im wrong because i have seen cars make over that an blow up.
The fact that I have done the same or better then what they are saying, I would say I am backed up with facts.

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
I dont know about you, but id rather go from personal experience than follow the crowd.
I learn from other peoples mistakes as well as my own. I do not have a ego to get in the way of being a open minded person

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
that would be YOUR personal experience, you say its reliable, i think for a customer to ask me "is 300whp on a stock motor reliable" i would have to say no, from my PERSONAL EXPERIENCE:

Lances b16 turbo 10psi popped ringlands the second he went above 12psi
Jerrys ITR (same ringlands as b16 pistons) popped 1 month after he boosted it at 10psi
Mikes 2000 civic si blew within 1 week of 8psi of boost (popped ringlands)
Kevins b16 exploded a valve with a 75 shot of nitrous
Seans 00 Civic si popped after 3 months, ringlands collapsed
Reggies B16 DA popped ringlands after 2 weeks of 10psi
That means nothing, you know why? no specs on the set-up or WHP numbers.

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
1 detonation on a CAST pistons at 12-18psi, and the motor is DONE.
This statement right here shows what you know about tuning and turbocharging in general.

as others had said in the thread, psi has nothing to do with the detonation, octane of fuel, ablitly for a motor to hold pressure.


Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
Now you say its reliable. well when you run a shop, and have to stand behind your statements, you might think differently. I would not feel good telling someone "so an so says 350whp is reliable, so lets do that", then after 2 months it grenades cause i know there is a good possibility that it will. Id rather tell them 280whp is reliable, an to enjoy it until they want to really push it.
Hahah, too funny. I know nothing about that or how to talk/treat a customer.

Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Vteckidd
LOL an what else would you like me to use? a uego? PLX? HONDATA? our dyno wideband is MUCH more accurate than any other wideband, sorry. Matter of fact, we tuned a KPRO car last week, an his wideband on hondata was 1.5 points OFF from our dyno on the LEAN side. so had we used his wideband, it would have probably gotten us in trouble. We replace our wideband every 3-6 months, i HIGHLY doubt regular customers replace it that often.
Hondata has a wideband? I hope you are not using the stock k-series one.

Better question, why would you use a customers wideband? I use mine and mine only. Every dyno I have ever been on, has had a different reading. Even if I go to the same dyno, it is off.