Best Boosted B-series?

[Turbogixxer]

Wrong, i said i wouldnt ADVISE going over 230whp on a STOCK BLOCK b16, weak ringlands tend to crumble. I wouldnt advise it, if Ed tuned it, Evans tuned it, or god himself, i wouldnt advise it.

Honsetly, that is cool. If you feel your tuner and you are not capible of doing something, that is great.

But, do not act like you are a god in the subject and try to push people down that are giving real world data.

Before you go: "I said advise, not we could not do it", the fact is, you are not comfortable with going over a certain WHP (not psi). The fact that I have tuned cars way over your "limit" and over your "6 months" rule speaks volumes. This is not from a website, this is real world.

no ego here sir, just facts.

hmm..

you cant tell me im wrong when i have PERSONAL experieince.

Watch out F1, this guy has personal experience.

Basic T3 turbos for the most part on all those. 220-240whp setups, some having as little as 10k miles (ITR) others having over 100k.

Doesn't that throw your "do not over 230whp" theory off? I mean, 220 is less then 230, right? If you state, do not go over 230, then 230 is fine, right?

Please , enlighten me. Detonation on a cast piston will destroy it, if you think you can having a TUNED car on the dyno saves tyou from detonation, you have alot to learn likewise. If someone is running their stock b16 or gsr block at 12-18psi and they detonate on it, its GOING to 1) blow a hole in a piston 2) break the ringland off. thats FACTS, not speculation.

Come on, You can not be that dumb.

You are basicly stating, 12-18 psi in the same in every turbo. Shit, I better call the stock gsr I tuned at 20 psi. I hope the last 9 months he has not been driving around with a hole in his piston or a cracked ringland.

Psi has NOTHING to do with deontation? hmmm, ever heard of CYLINDER TEMPS? EGTS? A boosted motor is MORE likely to detonate than an NA car, becuse of the added heat for the FORCED INDUCTION. are you kidding me? are we back to tuning 101? if you think detonation cant happen, go drive on one of our nice hot humid 100degree 99% humidity GA afternoons. If youd like me to get into load properties as a correlation to detonation i can do that too. when yor pushing a factory motor so far already, it takes less to blow it up.

You are correct in a cerain part. But you are confusing PSI of a turbo with cylinder pressure. PSi of a turbo is independant of the size of the turbo, so you can not say that 12-18 psi of turbo pressure has the same cylinder pressure (read: heat) for all turbos.

Maybe you should learn about EFI. See, most systems see a difference in ATM, manifold pressure and/or air flow, air density, coolant tempersure and can make a change (not saying it is great, because it is user input) (BTW, fuel and timing too). If it is tuned correctly, I do not see a problem, do you?


All to most of the cars I tune are in that same weather you are in if not worse.