Quote Originally Posted by Turbogixxer
Nope, but the point I am making. I am not the only one that is doing this. So, lets look at this for a bit.

You are saying you can not go over 230whp on a stock B16 without have problems. But, yet, other people have no problems (inculding me and my personal experience). You are the only that is seeming to have the problem, not other people.
Wrong, i said i wouldnt ADVISE going over 230whp on a STOCK BLOCK b16, weak ringlands tend to crumble. I wouldnt advise it, if Ed tuned it, Evans tuned it, or god himself, i wouldnt advise it.

The fact that I have done the same or better then what they are saying, I would say I am backed up with facts.
I learn from other peoples mistakes as well as my own. I do not have a ego to get in the way of being a open minded person
no ego here sir, just facts.
That means nothing, you know why? no specs on the set-up or WHP numbers.
Basic T3 turbos for the most part on all those. 220-240whp setups, some having as little as 10k miles (ITR) others having over 100k.
This statement right here shows what you know about tuning and turbocharging in general.
Please , enlighten me. Detonation on a cast piston will destroy it, if you think you can having a TUNED car on the dyno saves tyou from detonation, you have alot to learn likewise. If someone is running their stock b16 or gsr block at 12-18psi and they detonate on it, its GOING to 1) blow a hole in a piston 2) break the ringland off. thats FACTS, not speculation.

as others had said in the thread, psi has nothing to do with the detonation, octane of fuel, ablitly for a motor to hold pressure.
Psi has NOTHING to do with deontation? hmmm, ever heard of CYLINDER TEMPS? EGTS? A boosted motor is MORE likely to detonate than an NA car, becuse of the added heat for the FORCED INDUCTION. are you kidding me? are we back to tuning 101? if you think detonation cant happen, go drive on one of our nice hot humid 100degree 99% humidity GA afternoons. If youd like me to get into load properties as a correlation to detonation i can do that too. when yor pushing a factory motor so far already, it takes less to blow it up.

Hahah, too funny. I know nothing about that or how to talk/treat a customer
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i dont know who you are so.....



Hondata has a wideband? I hope you are not using the stock k-series one.

Better question, why would you use a customers wideband? I use mine and mine only. Every dyno I have ever been on, has had a different reading. Even if I go to the same dyno, it is off.
ok you just said that
I really do not care about your a/f charts, because the odds are they are measured on the dyno wideband.
I didnt say we USED his wideband, i said we noticed his wideband was off compared to ours. meaning, if he had used his wideband to tune on the street , he prob would have gotten in trouble.