Originally Posted by 1439/2000
matter fact, if you "jdm is best blah blah blah heads" dont know these people, then you have no room to talk.
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Depends on the use.
matter fact, if you "jdm is best blah blah blah heads" dont know these people, then you have no room to talk.
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Last edited by EJ25RUN; 12-30-2007 at 11:25 AM.
Im a Nissan guy and RB owner...and I still chose the 2JZ. Im sorry, but any drive-train that can handle 800-1000 hp on the stock block deserves the nod.
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It depends on the use but if i had the money to build either for my 240 id go with the rb26...I would think youd get alot more credit then you would with a 2jz since it's alot more rare and a much harder swap.
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Supra's can go incredibly fast.
In one direction.
^^ they can do it sideways too! just need a good driverI voted 2jz.
they are both sexy ass motors that put down a sh*t load of power.
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but if i had to choose... Dodge Viper V10
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you know you say that but lets really think this through.... i remember that 1500hp viper you posted.but if i had to choose... Dodge Viper V10
now that car has an 8 liter right?
the rb fully done up is 3.0 and a 2jz goes to 3.4 liters. Soo i guess what im really saying if chrysler really took their time and didnt use a truck engine, their would be alot more power without the need of turbos and such.
the only other car that has 8 liters is a veyron and that engine is tuned to be driven everyday and not for just track purposes. It drink pump gas to.
i would take an I motor over a V. V's dont make the power the Inlines do.
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i just find the Viper V10 a beautiful motor. There arent many pretty motors anymore. RB, 2jz, B16/18, Viper, a few others. Most are covered in sh*t or have covers all over them.
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this is the worlds best engine i think! BMW V10
I think Bugatti's would be. Quad turbos and 10 radiators. lol, but back to topic: rb26dett. something about the appearance of it..drool.. not saying it's better than the 2jz
Not hp but non distortional torque
LOL YES. But I have seen rally Supras. It depends on what I was doing. Drag 2J but for the track RB. IDK Im don’t like drag racing too boring for me so I would pic RB. I gess because the RB would have grater response on the track because of less stroke. This vid is old but lest you see what I mean. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=1072922
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but both are great motors in there own way, it all depends on what there being built for and the driver to get the most out of a Vehicle's setup.
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2jz all the way. because it's a toyota. ofcourse i'm more of a toyota fan than a nissan fan so my opinion is biased. not that everyone else's isn't.
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This is the most worn out topic. If the rb26 is the s h i t where are they, what there is maybe a hand full here that do any kind of big hp/tq numbers.(They are a cool swap because there isn't alot of them around) If we were over seas it would be another story. But in the united states 2jz rules a s s in this part of the country. Take AAP/Titan high hp numbers are nothing for them and they do them every day. Show me anyone running a rb26 for even a half a season without problems in our country and doing what the 2jz can do performance wise at the track.
Last edited by turbodave; 02-07-2008 at 10:49 PM.
STFU. GTFO. There is no such thing as too much power. Especially for those of us who are hung like a mouse. lol. Gotta make up for it somehow. lol.
If you're suggesting a 3.0L putting out 1500hp is better than an 8L with the same hp, you need to get your facts straight.
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why swap either be original
Yes, be original. Don't use either proven race motor.
I've owned both, and I would say stock-to-stock, the RB26. I don't have the best data experience, being that my supra was auto and BPU, and my GT-R is slightly modified (Trust FMIC, 4-in Apexi N1 Exhaust, DP, HKS twin intakes). Supra was 400 bhp, skyline is probably 350 bhp. The power/torque curve is more linear and responsive with the skyline, due to the true twin setup of the small Garrett turbines. The Toyota's CT26 turbine's are nice, but the sequential set-up creates a minor lag (especially in an AT), which can be disappointing, 'til the 2nd turbine spools up and then you're off!
The skyline is much more fun to drive and feels less bulky in the zigs, and the supra feels more like a drag car.
What would be interesting, is to, somehow swap a 2jzgte into a GT-R (with AWD), and swap an RB26DETT into a Supra and see how that pans out. Of course, I would have to convert the gte to a true twin set-up for the response, but I bet I would like it more in the GT-R. Just gotta have that response!
i would take a rb30 over a 2jz... 3 litres in the rb is badass
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i like the rb better. unless of course you want a dyno queen.
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Im saying with all perfect volumetric efficiency, the Viper engine should make more power than it currently has. I say it's not a well built engine because why it it have so much displacement yet show so little for it. Forget adding boost and what not.
Imagine if BMW had their 5.0L V10 on a dyno vs the 8.0L mill from Chrysler.
Really which is the better engine?
You own a Honda. Right?
You are saying too much power is never enough. Right?
Have you ever even driven a car with 400hp much less 1000?
and your saying a car with useless hp makes sense?
I've done both, and I like the 2J better. It spooled the turbo faster, made more torque, can rev almost as high, and was less expensive. With that said, the RB is still a great motor, it's just my preference based on what I've dealt with in the past 2yrs.
turbo dave makes a packet thing that actually compare the 2jzgte with the rb25 and 26 if you want to conatct them with mainstream performance, they do some good things with the 2j
I would have to recommend the 2jz over the rb25 or rb26 any day. The investment cost of making power is lower with the 2j. The tuning is easier with the 2j. The 2j in its stock form is much stronger than the rb. 2j for the win.
If you need more details of why I believe the 2j is superior please call me at the shop to discuss.
Really people who cares... If you've got the money to build the hell outta one or the other then just pick what you want... But PLEASE remember... No matter how much HP you get or how fast it is in the 1/4 ....SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE WILL BEAT YOU IN BOTH.... SO WHY WASTE YOUR MONEY.... just my opinion
then why are you on a car forum?????
statement is true enough, but if you're not into hp then the same could be said about your stereo or look of a car if someone else has more money to invest. just trying to understand the why bother part if you're not into cars why not be on a computer site or something
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D15/16 ftw. Most people that I've talked to with extensive experience (like battleground above) prefer the 2JZ.
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How do you know this? My god im sick of stupid ass post
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