2jz-gte vs. rb26-dett

[AE86 Dorifto]

I've heard a lot of things about both engines. I know alot about both because I'm a Toyota/Nissan fanatic. The rb26 (from what I've seen) can get more hp when built to the max but is extremly unstable at that point and will need extreme work after about two quarter-mile races. The 2jz (from what I've seen) can't get up to as much hp but when maxed out the engine stays strong and doesn't need as much work.
Highest hp 2jz I've seen: 1600 hp (aap). Highest hp rb26 I've seen: 2000 hp (some video on the internet).

[Bruce Leroy]

I'm partial to the 2j.

[1439/2000]

This thread is retarded. They're both fine.

[AE86 Dorifto]

This thread is retarded. They're both fine.

I know they're both fine but which one do you like better?

[1439/2000]

I know they're both fine but which one do you like better?

There is a blown up rb26 at my house. Looking at it makes me not want one. It made good power and fits in a 240 barely.

2js are nice too, i'd throw one in an sc300.

So, it's a tie.

[EJ25RUN]

This thread is retarded. They're both fine.

matter fact, if you "jdm is best blah blah blah heads" dont know these people, then you have no room to talk.

Thyssenkrupp-Krause

[P. A.]

2jz,1jz,7m,starting @500 + whp w/stock bottom end....

[P. A.]

but rb26

[Mdeezy]

the RB can take boost better due to its iron block. I love the RB for all it is, but its easier and cheaper to get ones hands on a 2jz. That stock motor can handle +/- 400hp with no internal modification.

It just depends on what its going into. they both can take a lot of abuse before they need additional work.

[Speedm0(\)key]

the RB can take boost better due to its iron block. I love the RB for all it is, but its easier and cheaper to get ones hands on a 2jz. That stock motor can handle +/- 400hp with no internal modification.

It just depends on what its going into. they both can take a lot of abuse before they need additional work.

actually son, they are both iron blocks, and the 2jz can handle far more than 400rwhp. i think one of the highest hp stock bottom end 2jz bent one rod @ 879rwhp (after car had already made over 20 passes on that setup)

toyota > Nissan

2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

thats retarded mark, i dissown you for that retarded comment^

actually if you want to talk about which motor has acheived the highest amount of power, the rb26 is winner.. but who cares.

the Skyline has more than just awd advantage, its lighter, and dont forget.. not only is it all wheel drive, it has four wheel steering as well.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

thats retarded mark, i dissown you for that retarded comment^

actually if you want to talk about which motor has acheived the highest amount of power, the rb26 is winner.. but who cares.

the Skyline has more than just awd advantage, its lighter, and dont forget.. not only is it all wheel drive, it has four wheel steering as well.

fuck you whore!!!!

im partial to toyota so fuck nissan. Im just telling you what i heard from people that have tuned and worked with both platforms. There both great platforms but in stock forum the 2jzgte is superior. what the 2jz does on displacement, the RB does on revs The RB is 2.6 liter. The 2J is 3.0 liter...more displacement - more torque and horsepower

RB26DETT engine's are only good for about 600 rwhp on a stock headgasket and block in the hands of an average person and after that you need to swap it out for a metal headgasket that the supra come stock with. their weight is comparitable, if not more than a 2jz-GTE supra. From my understanding of the 2jz engine, you can get 800 from a stock lower block and cannot be matched for top end power either

Uhhh that doesn't make sense. Toyota on map while a Nissan on maf, with dual z32 mafs there is no problem tuning a Nissan motor including an rb26.

You can hit 400 with no internal mods on an RB too. They're pretty evenly matched.

A GTR is more expensive to tune than a Supra. The only reason GTR's are king of the Drag strips in Japan is they are a better car when it comes to traction And probably better on the track. But the supra is known in japan to be the highway king....so basiclly do you want a track car or a highway car??
this does not reflect the capabilities of the two engines .They are almost identical yet the 2j bottom is TWICE as tough

"The 2JZ engine is the latest in ultra high performance engineering from Japan and shows a technological upgrade over the RB26DETT that propels Nissan's Skyline GT-Rs. There are strong similarities between the pair - both are straight sixes with a DOHC 24-valve head, two turbos, intercooling and of course EFI. However, Toyota's 2JZ-GTE has aced the RB26 by including VVT-i (variable valve timing) and a sophisticated sequential turbo system which improves the overall spread of boost (and therefore torque). The swept volume of the engine has also been pushed to 3 litres"

it has been proven that the SUPRA will always make more power than the skyline with the same mods. Exhaust, air filter, FMIC on both, same specs, and the SUPRA always makes more power.

Do some serious work, turbo, injectors, fuel set up, more boost, forged pistons and again the SUPRA comes out on top, more reliable and a stronger engine than the Skyline.


as far as engine platforms go 2jzgte > rb26dett

[PhAtBoYMr2]

toyota > Nissan

2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

[1439/2000]

toyota > Nissan

2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

Uhhh that doesn't make sense. Toyota on map while a Nissan on maf, with dual z32 mafs there is no problem tuning a Nissan motor including an rb26.

You can hit 400 with no internal mods on an RB too. They're pretty evenly matched.

[yudalicious]

If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

meh, pretty useless statement...
blah, supra = heavy pig on road course
skyline = heavy but not a pig

I am and will always be partial to the Ka24de... not even ka24det, just DE

[StupidBikerBoy]

Wow, there sure is a lot of misinformation in this thread.


I think you could guess what I voted, but they are both legendary motors.

I went with an RB26 because I wanted something unique.:idb:

[Kaiser]

toyota > Nissan

2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

Supra's can go incredibly fast.


In one direction.

[FoolsDrifFWD]

toyota > Nissan

2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

How do you know this? My god im sick of stupid ass post

[Negrodamus]

4g63(t)

[RandomGuy]

4g63(t)

exactly....

but if i had to make a choice between the I6-ers i'd go with the 2J

[EJ25RUN]

THIS THREAD = WORTHLESS!!!!

ILL add my share i guess
i look at it away from the pure hp contest and into the overall.
the r32 won every single group A race ever entered and when the class was changed to JGTC, for the next 2 years the r32 still dominated. r33 took the next 5/7 years and the r34 the next 2 before being retired in 02.

The toyota teams did used the 3sgte and the 1uz v8 instead of a 2jz

[Sport1.3]

The toyota teams did used the 3sgte and the 1uz v8 instead of a 2jz

that was do to the weight of the motor and the ability for the 3s and the 1uz to sit further back in the engine bay for better weight distribution. the cars are limited to 500ps so really it isnt because the 2j wasnt good enough, it was because the 3s can make that much power and more no problem, and the 1uz N/A was more reliable and had much more lower end tq.

personally i think both motors are amazing for a I6. but "competition breads success" so this arguement isnt in vain. id love to see several tuning companies battle it out for superiority

[Ronsam2006]

4g63(t)

Now thats what im talking about.

[The Green Monster]

2jz ftw!

[Ninety Four]

I think any RB series motor in a 240SX is sexier than a 2JZGTE in either an SC300 or an IS300.


Discuss.

[man]

why would you need to make over 1000hp anyways?

[ranj]

why would you need to make over 1000hp anyways?

very good question lol
probably just for bragin (sp) rights. lol sure u can go faster, but damn over 1000?

[Nissangeek]

why would you need to make over 1000hp anyways?

STFU. GTFO. There is no such thing as too much power. Especially for those of us who are hung like a mouse. lol. Gotta make up for it somehow. lol.

[EJ25RUN]

STFU. GTFO. There is no such thing as too much power. Especially for those of us who are hung like a mouse. lol. Gotta make up for it somehow. lol.

You own a Honda. Right?

You are saying too much power is never enough. Right?

Have you ever even driven a car with 400hp much less 1000?

and your saying a car with useless hp makes sense?

[CSquared]

5efe owns

[Speedm0(\)key]

I've heard a lot of things about both engines. I know alot about both because I'm a Toyota/Nissan fanatic. The rb26 (from what I've seen) can get more hp when built to the max but is extremly unstable at that point and will need extreme work after about two quarter-mile races. The 2jz (from what I've seen) can't get up to as much hp but when maxed out the engine stays strong and doesn't need as much work.
Highest hp 2jz I've seen: 1600 hp (aap). Highest hp rb26 I've seen: 2000 hp (some video on the internet).

kind of a dumb argument, sure.. they are both inline 6's and both are considered to be over-engineered motors. however the 2jzgte is without a doubt the stoutest of the both stock to stock. while the 2jz will never be able to match the rb26's power/liter capabilities, and the rb26 is considered to be the most successfully tuned motor in the world, the 2jzgte is superior as far as the build goes stock for stock. built wise its basically a toss up, but like said.. the rb26 is usually favored due to its ability to pump out more power per liter.

virtually any motor is stable when built and tuned correctly, but i'd have to say after 900whp+.. most motors would break things frequently and maintenance would be far more than religious.

[4DRGSR]

2jz gte/ one reason only.....the aftermarket support here in the U.S.A. the rb26 is a great motor...but it's a bitch to get parts for....and yes i have installed both......the 2jz is a better platform.......

[Batlground]

I would have to recommend the 2jz over the rb25 or rb26 any day. The investment cost of making power is lower with the 2j. The tuning is easier with the 2j. The 2j in its stock form is much stronger than the rb. 2j for the win.

If you need more details of why I believe the 2j is superior please call me at the shop to discuss.

[Cool Cat Racing]

I'm partial to the RB's but I'm pretty biased on that opinion. RB's are capable of more than 600whp on the stock bottom end, many people are running over 700whp with the stock bottom end. Its simply a matter of how long you want it to last. Now if you take the fact that the supra has about 1/6th more displacement and factor that into even a 700whp RB and you've got your 800+whp supra. I don't think either motor is necessarily "stronger" than the other, one is simply bigger. Its never been a debate that more displacement will net more horsepower, a longer stroke will net more torque. With that in mind its no surprise the supra trumps the RB's. I don't know how much hp the stock 2JZ crank will hold up to but the RB has been tested to nearly 1800 before it came apart. This debate is as old as the Chevy/Dodge/Ford debate, its just as retarded too. Buy the car, not the motor and either way your going to get a good platform to build on. As for tuning and parts, its no harder to get skyline parts as it is to get the JDM supra parts since they're all coming from the same island. I can get skyline parts just about as easily as supra parts.

[PSINXS]

The record for stock bottom power on a Supra was 980whp (peter Blach) and that has been broken. I want to say its 991 now.

but agreed. this debate has been beat to death on every forum in the world. go to supraforums and do a searcha nd you will get some pretty good info.

[1000cckiller]

fuck all ya bitches. rb for life

[se-riousr]

i have a video of a skyline that made over a 1000hp and did not break for 5 years i will post it when find it. both are good cars but the rb is nice in jap
http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/01...kylineGT-R.htm

[1439/2000]

A GTR is harder to tune? That just blows my mind.


Supra's from a dig on street tires< Galant's from a dig on street tires.

[Cool Cat Racing]

I haven't had any harder time tuning GTR's than any other MAF based car.

[Speedm0(\)key]

I haven't had any harder time tuning GTR's than any other MAF based car.

lol. the GT-R is the most successfully tuned car in the world. hands down.. el oh el.

[GTScoob]

Big pissing contest.

Personally I'd just stroke out a newer LS1 and twin turbo it and throw it in either car. Last I heard stock block V8s were making thousands of HP in big drag racing series.