I guess i see what you mean. ive had a few cars before this one and experienced the douches your reffering to. I really like the cars themselves, mechanically. everyone has theyre right to an opinion i guess i just got offended because im used to honda owners with the whole "i dont care how much power you make its still a neon" "its a dodge, they have bad quality" thing. it gets irritating. i misunderstood.Originally Posted by allmotoronly