what happens to a SRT-4 at 8000rpm

[allmotoronly]

wtf does this have to do with dodge?? you may worship imports but you missed a crucial part here. HE HAD AN AFTERMARKET CLUTCH NOT MADE BY DODGE. Dodge didnt put their name on it, recommend it, endorse it, or tell the guy to put it in his car. The stock clutch is fine. I'm putting down 320hp on pump gas and still using my stock clutch with no problems. So before you bash something at least know something about it.

also its not a mitsu engine
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/24.html

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.

[Just_CHill]

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.

Well that's until they get smoked by one..............

[EssAreTwenTee]

wft are you talking about???? I don't worship imports. I actually own two americal made vehicles, and as of yesterday, no imports. I understand that he had a aftermarket clutch. Its still funny that when the clutch came apart it did all that damage. I've had a cluch come apart before, and it didn't do anything but scar up the inside of the bellhousing.

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me. I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.

I'm not sure you even know what your point is. So you've had a clutch come apart before and not destroy your engine bay. Big deal. You want a cookie? I guess that means anytime someone pops a clutch it shouldnt do damage right? And I dont recall you mentioning anything about the engine not revving high in your previous dodge bashing, but still fail to see what it has to do with anything. srt4s make plenty of power keeping it under 6500 so why do they need to go any higher? If I wanted to rev to 6million rpms I'd buy a rotary. As for people not knowing the difference between a srt4 and a neon, could it be because a srt4 is a neon? but then i guess dodge is the only one that builds sport compact versions of an economy car

[allmotoronly]

As for people not knowing the difference between a srt4 and a neon, could it be because a srt4 is a neon?

Can you read? I said people can not tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon. I never said the srt4 wasn't a neon. Why the hell are you getting so defensive? All I said was that it was funny that all that **** broke from reving to 8k and exploding the clutch. I never said anything about you or your car *******. There's no reason for a personal attack. I agree with you that there was no point in that guy taking the engine to 8k rpm. I never said that you have to rev that high to make power. I just thought it was pretty funny that his **** came apart at 8k.

[Bruce Leroy]

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not.

What stock civic clutch do you know of that can hold 240+ ft/lbs of tq????

[Terror]

What stock civic clutch do you know of that can hold 240+ ft/lbs of tq????

+1 im not bashing yours or any other honda allmota. but. 60 ft lbs of tourque wont do that. and in the pictures. thats an agp .50 trim turbo. minimum. the car is probabley making a minimum of 450 ft lbs of tourque and somewhere equal in hp. im willing to bet it was the power of the car during a wot shift. not the rpm range. that would cause the clutch and flywheel to defragment like that. not 8k rpm.

[allmotoronly]

+1 im not bashing yours or any other honda allmota. but. 60 ft lbs of tourque wont do that. and in the pictures. thats an agp .50 trim turbo. minimum. the car is probabley making a minimum of 450 ft lbs of tourque and somewhere equal in hp. im willing to bet it was the power of the car during a wot shift. not the rpm range. that would cause the clutch and flywheel to defragment like that. not 8k rpm.

I agree that it was more likely a WOT shift at 8k, not just going up to 8k. Its just the point that the car wasn't designed to go that high, and neither was the aftermarket clutch he had I guess. I've made a WOT shift at around 7k rpm in a car that had similar hp and torque, and probably weighed twice as much, without any damage. Its just seems odd to me that even at that power the clutch would come apart like it did. It doesn't happen much unless your flywheel and clutch are old and worn thinner than the recommended specs.

[allmotoronly]

My original arguement was that a stock civic clutch was better than whatever that guy had, stock or not. My main point was that for a 4 cylinder, those engines don't rev very high. The fact that **** comes apart at 8k is just funny to me.

your car doesnt make enough power to ride a clutch w/o stalling. these engines were designed to make power, not rev high. funny thing is most weed wackers rev to 12k rpm. funny coincidence?


I dont care how much HP you make in your SRT, its still a neon. the average person can't tell the difference between a SRT4 and a base model neon.[/QUOTE]

dont you drive an old civic? come on dude.... " oh yeah well my ej1 has more horse power per liter" ROFL who gives a ****.

I don't own a honda. thats allmota. I don't own any imports right now.

[Terror]

I don't own a honda. thats allmota. I have a Trans AM, a Hummer H3, and I had a GSR as a dd, but I sold it.

Then why bashing the SRTs like that?

[allmotoronly]

Then why bashing the SRTs like that?

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.

[Terror]

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.

I guess i see what you mean. ive had a few cars before this one and experienced the douches your reffering to. I really like the cars themselves, mechanically. everyone has theyre right to an opinion i guess i just got offended because im used to honda owners with the whole "i dont care how much power you make its still a neon" "its a dodge, they have bad quality" thing. it gets irritating. i misunderstood.

[allmotoronly]

I guess i see what you mean. ive had a few cars before this one and experienced the douches your reffering to. I really like the cars themselves, mechanically. everyone has theyre right to an opinion i guess i just got offended because im used to honda owners with the whole "i dont care how much power you make its still a neon" "its a dodge, they have bad quality" thing. it gets irritating. i misunderstood.

I think its like that with a lot of cars. Theres always the owners who think they are hot **** and make the rest look bad. Thats why I never modded my GSR I used to have. I didn't want to be associated with those integra owners who think they are hot ****, making the rest of us look bad.

[SleeperWRX]

Because all SRT owners that I know (and I'm not saying this applies to all SRT owners in general) think they are hot **** and their car is the most ****ing awesome car in the whole city. They ride around popping the bov 23424524 times to sound cool. Then, everytime I want to race one of them in my Trans Am, they have some excuse that their car has something wrong with it and they can't race. It just gave me the impression that those cars aren't very reliable.